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We all know at this point what the "No Russian" mission is, so I feel I wont need to explain it. (The airport mission, for those who dont know.) Now, people have been saying "Its so offensive! This game should be banned! How can they just have a level of butchering unarmed civilians?!" Well, why do they have a problem with this level alone? Why is this level getting so much hate? What about GTA4 (or any GTA/Saints Row, for that case) where you can just walk the streets with automatic weapons mowing down civilians? Or, walking into a hospital, killing everyone, then using said hospital as a refuge to hold out against police enforcment? Hell, the games selling points are sandbox gameplay where you can drive cars on the sidewalk to see how many dead civilians you can jam in your fender at once.

I guess what Im saying is, why is everyone so offended by this level? Other games are guilty of much worse than this.

EDIT: Umm, yes, Yahtzee's review got me thinking about it, so I wanted to see what everyone else thought. Not sure why everyone is being so hostile about it. Im not intending to pass his ideas off as mine or something, just trying to get some seperate opinons.
 

Hiphophippo

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I feel like I shouldn't have to tell you this. Real world events make that level offensive to some people.
 

AkJay

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Wow.. sounds JUST LIKE what Yahtzee said, you even mentioned GTA4... honestly, i don't feel like reading this, I'd rather hear it on ZP.
 

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yeah dude seriously the events depicted in that level happened in real life in parts and not as extreme but its still based on real life events around the world.
 

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This thread has been done to death, it's been done to death by the media, and the escapist staff, and the escapist forum members...

So what I'm saying is...

*DANGER EPILEPSY WARNING BELOW!*

Please, go through the OFFICIAL threads made by people like Shamus (I think?) to get info, as they were very informative.
 

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Instant K4rma said:
Hell, the games selling points are sandbox gameplay where you can drive cars on the sidewalk to see how many dead civilians you can jam in your fender at once.
Reminds me of Mafia, where (in the times I sucked at driving with a keyboard) I just drove on the sidewalkes to prevent myself from crashing into other cars and destroying my own car.
 

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Well it's a topic that hits a little harder to some people. Partaking in a act of terror even if we are trying to fight terrorism. Sure a lot of games have you kill innocents, but it's why or how you kill them is what's making this a big deal
 

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dududf said:
This thread has been done to death, it's been done to death by the media, and the escapist staff, and the escapist forum members...

So what I'm saying is...

*DANGER EPILEPSY WARNING BELOW!*

Please, go through the OFFICIAL threads made by people like Shamus (I think?) to get info, as they were very informative.
Man you weren't kidding about that epilepsy danger.
 

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Cops dont die in firefights? People arent killed in hit-and-run incidents? Innocent people arent robbed at gunpoint? These things happen in GTA/Saints Row, and they happen every day.
 

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Bringing more attention to it inevitably leads to angry censor happy politicians. Especially mentioning parallel amounts of violence in other games will lead to trouble as well. They will just agree with you and say they should be banned too.
 

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anthony87 said:
dududf said:
This thread has been done to death, it's been done to death by the media, and the escapist staff, and the escapist forum members...

So what I'm saying is...

*DANGER EPILEPSY WARNING BELOW!*

Please, go through the OFFICIAL threads made by people like Shamus (I think?) to get info, as they were very informative.
Man you weren't kidding about that epilepsy danger.
I like to think that I have enough of a soul to bother mentioning about possible epilepsy :3
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Instant K4rma said:
Cops dont die in firefights? People arent killed in hit-and-run incidents? Innocent people arent robbed at gunpoint? These things happen in GTA/Saints Row, and they happen every day.
For some strange reason, I think you're trying to bump this so you can get a badge, by using a "Popular" (Aka, beaten to death with a base ball bat.) and or trying to troll/get badges.

Here are some answers
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/view-from-the-road/6777-A-View-From-the-Road-MMOdern-Warfare
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/press-released/6776-Poking-the-Hornet-s-Nest

All of which, were on the front page as an official article.

And your answer is: It's a popular game, and thus the media/religious people/politicians/whatever are taking it as an oportunity to "Get noticed".

There is no real offensive thing about it, go play FarCry 2, and THEN you'll feel offended and sick inside.

Don't reply saying "Thanks", or "You Asshole blah blah blah" "You arrogant blah blah blah" I don't care, and I'll perceive it as bumping a redundant thread >.>
 

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Man, I've never seen a thread containing this exact same content on The Escapist. Thank you for being so totally original and adding to discussion.
 

zacaron

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hmm, yes I can see how people could find that very offencive infact im going to go play it again
 

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Smack-Ferret said:
I think it's funny that you walk through the level and it's name is No Russian!

Get it?
OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

But yeah, it's probably offensive since it's closer to real life than games like Fallout 3 or such.
 

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Smack-Ferret said:
I think it's funny that you walk through the level and it's name is No Russian!

Get it?
You are the awesomest guy I've ever met. And I've never even met you.
dududf said:
This thread has been done to death, it's been done to death by the media, and the escapist staff, and the escapist forum members...

So what I'm saying is...

*DANGER EPILEPSY WARNING BELOW!*

Please, go through the OFFICIAL threads made by people like Shamus (I think?) to get info, as they were very informative.
Ah shitfuckchristballs, my eyes! MY...MY EYES!
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
AkJay said:
Wow.. sounds JUST LIKE what Yahtzee said, you even mentioned GTA4... honestly, i don't feel like reading this, I'd rather hear it on ZP.
Why, I said that even before Yahtzee reviewed it. Does that mean I somehow copied Yahtzee? Why don't you stop posting like an asshole, hmmm?
OT: I don't know, but can we just let it go?
Well, I wasn't even talking to you; so I have no problem with you. At all. Yet you seem to be trying to start some kind of problem with me. Why is that?