Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

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SilentBobsThoughts

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Yes before I got swamped by people saying it's from Assassins Creed 2, I want to know, what is your interpretation to this statement?
 

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I think it's a fancy way of saying that everything is subjective. If truths are universally accepted norms, then there is no truth because nothing is universally accepted, because everyone sees things from a different point of view. Everything is permitted is saying this as well, because what is right and what is wrong is all subjective.

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This is in Assasin's Creed?

If there are no legal laws then there can be no crime as there would be no law to say that killing is a crime. If there are no natural laws or laws of physics then anything is possible because who can say that it isn't? In practice, when you discard received wisdom then new things become possible in theory.
 

cyber_andyy

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*It originated from AC1...*

But yeah it's basically saying that nothing can be absolute, and that every thing can be justified.
 

Ganthrinor

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Truth is a point of view, and you can do whatever you want as long as you're willing to pay the price.
 

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SilentBobsThoughts said:
Yes before I got swamped by people saying it's from Assassins Creed 2, I want to know, what is your interpretation to this statement?
From what I read in game, it literally means we an objective truth either does not exist or we as humans are hopelessly ill equiped to see it through our subjective natures - as such, "Nothing is True"

As for "Everything is permitted", I think it speaks to there goal of ...

protected 'free will' by saying they permit anything, and they will use any and everything to achieve that protection from the efforts of the Knight Templar/Abstergo to enslave man via the Piece's of Eden
 

Woodsey

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Actually AC used it before AC2. And some real assassin guy a 1000 years before that.

OT: That the world is built on a misunderstanding/lie (so nothing is true), and because of this there are always ways to get around things (because everything is permitted).
 

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I'm pretty sure the point of it is a way of communicating the fact that there are those before humans and also the pieces of Eden. Everything that society is built on isn't as it seems and can be interpreted any way? Fits with the prophecy at the Vatican.
 

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Sounds like standard Republican philosophy.
 

Ophiuchus

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Yeah, it's not from Assassin's Creed 2, or even the first one. It's the motto of Hassan-i Sabbah, leader of the Hashshashin, a real person who lived and died at the end of the 11th century/beginning of the 12th. Also, there's speculation that the actual quote was "nothing is forbidden, everything is possible", which probably makes more sense, but never mind that.

ANYWAY.

The way I see it, the phrase refers to amorality - in a world where nothing is real, no moral boundaries are drawn. If nothing is real, nothing matters, so you draw your own moral boundaries wherever you want, so everything is permitted.

[small](Yes, I liked Assassin's Creed enough to research all that stuff. I realise it takes geekiness to another level, thanks for pointing that out.)[/small]
 

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That assassins don't give a fuck cause they'll kick your ass anyway.
I think this sums it up quite well. Well either that or it's just a nice way to allow for the assassins to bend the rules to their whim.
 

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I think it means that if truly anything can happen, than nothing would be true because you can do something that would make it untrue. For example, "The sky is blue" Rather universally accepted, right? If anything was permitted, or possible, than the sky could be made, say red, thus negating the previous statement.