Oh my god I came up with a moral choice.

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novixz

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Okay, so I made up this weird situation when playing out this weird complex prank in my head. Okay, you wake up one day, propped up against the wall of your house. You went to sleep in your bed that night, so you walk into your house. (if you live in a hotel/dorm just play along) So, you walk in to see your family eating breakfast, they are all giving you this strange look. You ask if they know how you woke up against the door, one of them just replies: "Who are you?" You have nothing in your pockets from that night, just the clothes on your back. Long story short: You have been erased from existence, you don't have a birth certificate, you don't have a job, an education, a car, nothing but the clothes you sleep in. So what to do you do? Okay, now for the moral choice part: You are approached by a man knowing who you are and your situation, he offers to you: you can have somebody else's life. Anybody you want, your neighbor, a celebrity, anybody, their car, their job, their children, everything, in the eyes of the people around the person's live you took, you are them, also you have no memory of your past life. You just don't get out that easily of course. Okay now that you have chosen the selfish option out, you have to suffer the consequences. Okay you have a choice here also, both equally bad.

1. You can't hear music anymore, you don't hear notes, you don't hear singing, nothing, it's all just silence.

2. The rest of your children that you have and your grandchildren etc, are all born with horrible deformities. Like.... anything involving agent orange.


So tell me, how good am I with making a moral question for people.
 

Drakmeire

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I wouldn't take the deal. I love music and don't plan on ever reproducing. I think i could easily build a new life through a series of odd jobs and a fake ID.
 

NeutralDrow

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It's an utterly fantastical situation with little real-world application, so...not very.

I'd take the third option, though: stick around as me and deal with the consequences, without screwing someone else over.
 

Klutzz

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Wouldn't take the deal either, don't wanna be somebody who isn't me. I think most people would like to have a fresh start anyhow.
 

brunothepig

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I'd actually rather keep my own life, somehow. I dunno, venture off into the world, I wouldn't want to step into someone elses life. It'd be like starting a game on a 50% save file. If forced to, I'd certainly pick option 2. First because I love Heavy Metal to an obsessive degree, not to mention how much I love hearing all those other sounds, unless you only mean music, which is kinda weird. *breathes* Second, I don't want kids, so it's basically consequence free.
EDIT: Wait, I have no memory of me before swapping into someone else? What's the point? I'm not me, I stop existing. All I'm doing is kinda cloning one person, erasing the original, and me along with it. No, I'd hang around as a ghosty person.
 

lordmardok

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Worst moral choice ever, you have to see it from the view of an intelligent sociopath: I.E. someone who would actually make a truly immoral decision because of their nature.

Do you know what it means to be off the grid? To not exist? It means you can't be traced, it means you can commit just about any crime, leave any amount of physical evidence behind, and it will mean absolutely nothing. Your fingerprints will come up empty, your DNA will never have a match except at your other crime scenes, your face will never match a recognition database. Basically so long as you aren't caught literally IN THE ACT you can't be traced ever.

That would be the truly immoral choice, to say "screw you im living the motherf**king dream" to the ponce playing wizard-of-oz the home game.
 

TheKruzdawg

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So we're forced to steal someone else's life? The options presented aren't really moral choices, just different degrees of punishment for ourselves. The bigger moral choice be allowing us to decide if we wanted to steal someone else's life. That makes it a choice of either being selfish and being able to belong in the world again, at the price of ruining someone else's life; or to remain erased from existence and have to live the rest of our life without anyone ever recognizing us. That would be a choice between the self and others.
 

ultrachicken

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That last bit where you choose your punishment is not a moral choice because it affects no one but yourself, unless you had kids after choosing option 2, but that wouldn't be the result of that choice, it would be a result of failed birth control or simple stupidity.

Whether to live the rest of your life as a ghost person or to swap places with someone of your choosing is the real moral choice here, but it's also not a very original one. It's the standard "your life or a stranger's?" choice that gets regurgitated all the time, just in a non-standard skin.

I probably wouldn't remain a ghost person because as a teenager I would be fucked if I didn't have access to my house. Not to mention that without any identification I would be considered an illegal immigrant wherever I went.
 

Dorian6

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Congratulations! That is the most elaborate and convoluted choice ever conceived. There's no rhyme or reason to it.

Who determines what is and is not music? If it's my grandmother, then I'll still be able to hear any songs written in the last ten years.

It's all just sound. How does it decide what sounds you can't hear anymore? And what is singing other than just someone talking in a weird, drawn out way?

Can I still hear rap? They're not singing, but some people call it music.

Does the Music of the Spheres count?

Also, If I choose option 2, what if I adopt children? will they still end up deformed? I have beaten your conundrum sir
 

FernandoV

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How is this a moral conundrum? It's just some fantastical "what would you do" situation that you tell over beers.
 

chaosyoshimage

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I'll be honest, I skipped everything up untill the two number options. So, I'm taking someone's life, and I don't remember who I am? How do "I" get to make a decision then?
 

TonyVonTonyus

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I wouldn't take the deal. This seems like a perfect time to reinvent myself...and assuming this man can do some sort of magical switch around with lives I'll become a wizard!
 

Nouw

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I just carry on like a man. It'd be basically getting another chance at life!
 

kypsilon

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I would become the greatest hitman/assassin in the history of mankind. Just think, no past, no ties no paper trails. Every electronic search would turn up nothing.
 

novixz

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Dorian6 said:
Congratulations! That is the most elaborate and convoluted choice ever conceived. There's no rhyme or reason to it.

Who determines what is and is not music? If it's my grandmother, then I'll still be able to hear any songs written in the last ten years.

It's all just sound. How does it decide what sounds you can't hear anymore? And what is singing other than just someone talking in a weird, drawn out way?

Can I still hear rap? They're not singing, but some people call it music.

Does the Music of the Spheres count?

Also, If I choose option 2, what if I adopt children? will they still end up deformed? I have beaten your conundrum sir
Then your adopted children will be killed in a car accident.
 

Innegativeion

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Option 3; I force myself in on the lives of my old family. When they protest and inevitably bring me to the police, a quick genetic test will bring the truth front and center.