I never noticed I did it until today, it was a sad day for me even if I don't do it often. But then how aware would I be if I really did it all the time without noticing?Valiance said:
Ohhhh, you're one of *those* people..
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Ill be honest. I do judge people by sight a lot. But its something sub consious. I do give most people chances to prove otherwise. But to be fair I do judge.
But I'd like to point out the fact that this is a gaming site and most gamers arnt exactly the most popular kids in class (Well Heavy Gamers). And I think gamers get judged harshly by other people. But I also think Gamers judge the "Cool" People. Well this is my experiance anyways.
Im not massively popular, But im not massively wierd either. I wouldn't look like a typical nerdy gamer (even though I am) cos Im Tall, Thin and toned.
So in conclusion. We all judge people by their looks at first. What you have to do is make sure you're entire judgement isnt based on the looks. =D
Comadorcrack.
But I'd like to point out the fact that this is a gaming site and most gamers arnt exactly the most popular kids in class (Well Heavy Gamers). And I think gamers get judged harshly by other people. But I also think Gamers judge the "Cool" People. Well this is my experiance anyways.
Im not massively popular, But im not massively wierd either. I wouldn't look like a typical nerdy gamer (even though I am) cos Im Tall, Thin and toned.
So in conclusion. We all judge people by their looks at first. What you have to do is make sure you're entire judgement isnt based on the looks. =D
Comadorcrack.
Two years ago when I was still in school some guy came over to me in physics class. I was sitting alone in my row because my two friends were sick that day and he asks "do you want to sit over there with us, you are you one of *those* people?"
Similar things kept happening, and sometimes still do.
Similar things kept happening, and sometimes still do.
Dont worry mate, believe me, If i judged people, I would be without friends right now (i tend to go to 'weird' people myself) and honestly, many are friendly, its just talking to them and getting to know them that is the hard part. People that are judging you for judging are lying. If they dont they are lying. Cases could be walking on a street and a black man coming down to pass you. Would you hug your valuables closer because he is black? Judging that because he is black he will steal? that of course can be considered racism and I prefer not to get into that (we could be here all day). But still, anyone can be judged, its just the kind of person that is judging has to see within them self to why they do that.Disaster Button said:
Err you laughed at him, with your entire class. Do you know how much that didn't help him?Disaster Button said:
Go and apologies to him for making him feel like crap
No we dislike you because you did judge him and laughed at him and call someone different weird
No you shouldn't treat him any differently, thats the problem we have with you
Wait I just said I wouldnt treat him differently, why is that still a problem.The Rockerfly said:
And yeah I did talk about him, and laugh yeah, but I still made the effort to talk to him afterwards. Sure it doesn't make it right but my prejudgements were confirmed to a degree and like I said I'll still continue to talk to em.
And he is weird. He does weird things. That doesn't mean that I mean it in an insulting way. And again like I said for like the 5th time, I won't treat em differently
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OT: Everyone judges people, it's subconcious, don't deny it, cause you're lying, that's fact.
The only time I'll ever not reserve judgement is when a person has their jeans half way around their ankles, this is usually closely followed by something "rudeboy" being said like "what's up my n*****" or "what's gwanin' G?" or something equally as stupid, that is when I don't want to get to know a person. If someone is silly enough to fall "victim" to that type of culture then I'm better off not knowing or getting to know them because they will piss me off with their idiocy.
Young male, age 18-24 in a bright orange tee-shirt, a beaming smile, a relaxed pose, clean-cut hair, etc.Disaster Button said:
Young male, age 18-24 in a black hoodie, carrying a baseball bat, dark stare at the ground, etc.
You know neither of them, you don't 'judge' them, but you might not feel as comfortable around one as you might around the other. I'm doing a bad example here, I'm just saying everyone mentally judges a person to a point based upon previous experiences/relationships/observations from similar people.
I'm not saying that we always act upon these stereotypes, but on some primal level, they still affect us, and I'm not saying that everyone is actively judgmental, but generally, people are more naturally comfortable around people that look like them or their parents/family and such.
It's difficult to explain, but I hope you understand what I mean.
And I don't think anyone is bad for it - you're bad if you don't realize/acknowledge that any uncertainty you have of the person is because of this natural feeling, like, say, if you decide to keep your distance from this strange kid with his mohawk simply because he has a mohawk and that's strange to you.
Hell, I'm just saying you might have more in common with him than you think, and countless opportunities for friendship may be wasted because we're too afraid to speak to people who are too different than us, or we simply (mentally) toss them aside into a group of sub-humans we do not wish to associate with.
He is really weird. He sits and hums to himself, dances on the stop and spaztastically, talks about the most obscure things, and laughs for no reason.
Reminds me of myself, a bit (except for the fact that I talk about the most obscure things with people who know an equal amount of obscure things, so I suppose that makes them less obscure and more things people are ashamed to talk about in public; and for the fact that I tapdance, and only because I like the tune of 'Shave and A Haircut', and I swear this is going to cause drivers' heads to turn someday and cause a traffic accident), so I can't really agree on your deduction that people are 'weird'. A bit different, perhaps, but in a world as varied as this, some people are always equally different, and thus the same as the difference.
And, to some extent, we all judge people based on their looks, but in a society where almost everyone wants to make a good impression and thus style themselves up, the people who trust the surroundings around them to be nonbiased to such a degree that they will judge people from conversation and observing reactions are the people I find truly fascinating; but I understand this does not apply to everyone.
So my advice to you is to watch the people who aren't similar to the rest the most, because those are the ones who trust you to observe them.
Now, I realize this is an unbelievably strange post, likely like a snapped pencil in that it is without a point. So what is the point?
...I 'unno. Judge people who care for their looks based on their looks and the ones who do not, judge them on their uncaring, but the thing I think you should remember is: You do not know these people. If you want to know about them, strike up conversation. It's Schrödinger's Social Status, really; they MIGHT be out-of-the-ordinary, but they might also be not, and all their actions have a rational explanation. You simply do not know until you have opened the box. I mean, thought outside the box. I mean, uh... ...Struck up conversation. Yeah.
Signed,
- Some Douchebag
Reminds me of myself, a bit (except for the fact that I talk about the most obscure things with people who know an equal amount of obscure things, so I suppose that makes them less obscure and more things people are ashamed to talk about in public; and for the fact that I tapdance, and only because I like the tune of 'Shave and A Haircut', and I swear this is going to cause drivers' heads to turn someday and cause a traffic accident), so I can't really agree on your deduction that people are 'weird'. A bit different, perhaps, but in a world as varied as this, some people are always equally different, and thus the same as the difference.
And, to some extent, we all judge people based on their looks, but in a society where almost everyone wants to make a good impression and thus style themselves up, the people who trust the surroundings around them to be nonbiased to such a degree that they will judge people from conversation and observing reactions are the people I find truly fascinating; but I understand this does not apply to everyone.
So my advice to you is to watch the people who aren't similar to the rest the most, because those are the ones who trust you to observe them.
Now, I realize this is an unbelievably strange post, likely like a snapped pencil in that it is without a point. So what is the point?
...I 'unno. Judge people who care for their looks based on their looks and the ones who do not, judge them on their uncaring, but the thing I think you should remember is: You do not know these people. If you want to know about them, strike up conversation. It's Schrödinger's Social Status, really; they MIGHT be out-of-the-ordinary, but they might also be not, and all their actions have a rational explanation. You simply do not know until you have opened the box. I mean, thought outside the box. I mean, uh... ...Struck up conversation. Yeah.
Signed,
- Some Douchebag
I'll be perfectly happy to admit that I prejudge people, and anyone who says that they don't is a big fat liar. I just don't let these prejudgements colour my treatment of a person before I get to know them, even if my prejudgement is initially one of 'they seem pretty cool'. If, however, they turn out to be a prick then I won't feel guilty for laughing at them etc., namely because they're a prick.
No but you have and not in a good way, ever had a class laughed at you because you were different? If no then you won't know how humiliating and how difficult it is to work with people who have laughed at you like thatDisaster Button said:
How about you just apologies to him for laughing, if you don't like his personality then thats fine. Laughing at him is the problem I have with you
Woah. Woah. Calm down.Machines Are Us said:
He's a school-kid. Who wasn't a colossal prick when they were a child?
Probably Nelson Mandela..... and some doctors.
Actually, doctors probably were, being all smug about their intelligence.
Anyway, point is, you can't lose respect for him for saying that, it's pretty normal for a school-kid to be a judgmental prick. It's whether he grows out of it which is the issue.
Everyone is prejudiced. The key is not to act out on it. But for some, it's easy to figure out. Take me, fro example, I dress and look in a way that shows who I am instantly. Some people have their looks show who they really are. I like to be different and I like metal, so I walk around in dreads, band t-shirts and platform boots. So of course people are guessing that I'm a bit weird and different. And that's probably true. And I love it. I'm not saying that prejudice is good, but some just want to show who they are. Of course you can assume things in your head, everyone does, but stay neutral when talking to them.
Hmm, I think in my school there are more boys with long hair than girls with long hair. I'm one of those girls, too, who have short hair and my boyfriend has long hair. Weird, I guess?Ciarang said:I am one of those people, I'm tall, have long hair ( that's unusual at my school) and have a deep voice
The only difference is that I'm normally quiet in school ( probably because I just started a new one =P )
OT: People make assumptions, heuristics on which they act upon. People may have heuristics about others and when they see a person who looks different, they assume one will also act differently. However when these heuristics go wrong people still won't change their opinions, they just think of it as an exception that confirms the rule.
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umm...
...ummm...
...No?
oh, and I also have the eye spasms that make me look crazy.
half the time I do it on purpose.
It was more of a quiet snicker but.. there's no real difference. And yeah I have been laughed at like that once or twice. Which makes what I did even worse probablyThe Rockerfly said: