Old Chinese Man Fainted, Motionless in Street, Ignored by Pedestrians

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slopeslider

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I'm starting to think there might be some cultural thing of not getting involved in other people masters in China
 

The Madman

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As for the video, it's called Genovese syndrome, or the Bystander effect. Not uncommon at all no matter where you go, though perhaps thanks to the culture there it's even more pervasive in China. But whatever the case people are people no matter where you travel!

But Genovese syndrome, yeah. Basically when something bad happens to someone in a crowded place it's so common for people to think 'someone else will do something or already has' that quite often no one actually does anything at all. Basically no one wants to step up and separate themselves from the crowd. There have been a whole slew of studies on the effect and it's kinda scary.

It's funny how advanced we are in some ways, yet still so animal in others. No one wants to leave the proverbial herd!

 

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The Madman said:
But Genovese syndrome, yeah
Ah, you touched interesting subject here.
I don't know how law works in other countries (i mean in similar cases).
Here, in Poland, it says that if someone proceeds to help the victim (for example by doing CPR) then he CAN'T stop until more trained personnel arrives. If he ceases his activity, then he may even land in the prison.
Moreover, if he screws something in the process then he may face charges as well.

Most people here won't lend a helping hand because they're afraid of possible aftermath. Also, because we're all immortal and indestructible, we don't prepare for potential problems and usually don't know what to do in cases of emergency.

So, in the end it's better to do "see no evil, do no evil" trick. I know, it's shi*y explanation, but plenty of people really think that way.

How are things in your country ?
 

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The Madman said:
Basically you have to be a middle class sob for other middle class snobs to help you in London...

I do agree with everyone else this guy has said, though. As sad as it seems we cannot help our fellow Men, I guess it just can't be helped, as much as we'd all like to think we'd help.
 

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My father makes regular trips to China and explained to me why they do stuff like this. If you help a sick/injured person he/she becomes your responsibility.

Can't remember story but it all seems so stupid and ridiculous to me.
 

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JesterRaiin said:
How are things in your country ?
To the best of my knowledge no such laws exists in Canada. We have the Good Samaritan Law but that's more designed with the intention of protecting and even encouraging people to help others rather than outright enforcing anything. Depending on Province anyway, I live in Alberta.

I am no lawyer however so obviously there might be other laws and such I'm unaware of, but I've never heard of a case where someone was severely penalized for not helping enough. I've heard of cases where the police were hoping to question the person, but that's about it.
 

JesterRaiin

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The Madman said:
JesterRaiin said:
How are things in your country ?
To the best of my knowledge no such laws exists in Canada. We have the Good Samaritan Law but that's more designed with the intention of protecting and even encouraging people to help others rather than outright enforcing anything. Depending on Province anyway, I live in Alberta.

I am no lawyer however so obviously there might be other laws and such I'm unaware of, but I've never heard of a case where someone was severely penalized for not helping enough. I've heard of cases where the police were hoping to question the person, but that's about it.
"Protection from liability 2. (1) Despite the rules of common law, a person described in subsection (2) who voluntarily and without reasonable expectation of compensation or reward provides the services described in that subsection is not liable for damages that result from the person's negligence in acting or failing to act while providing the services, unless it is established that the damages were caused by the gross negligence of the person."

Marvelous ! It's things like that makes me believe in the society.

Our country could use such law, but we have more important matters on the head now. Reinventing the wheel is one. Another one is making sure that everyone responsible for damages done in the year of our Lord 1331 will finally acknowledge their fault.
You know, the priorities ! :)
 

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Batou667 said:
Old Chinese Man Fainted, Motionless in Street, Ignored by Pedestrians
...and the guy behind the camera, apparently.
Exactly.

I don't get all this outrage, I mean I bet most of those folks just assumed him to be a passed out drunken hobo or something. We can all be heroes on our keyboards, but I bet my hand that 90% of escapists at least wouldn't have stopped to help either.

Besides "a cultural thing in China"? Have you forgotten the Genovese incident already or something? Only in that case a woman was actually being murdered, so it's even more baffling.