Opinions on Whale Wars?

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Soviet Heavy

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In my completely uninformed opinion based solely on youtube clips of the series, I have to side with the whalers. I may not agree with excessive whaling, but at least they don't fucking ram their ships into other vessels to make a point.
It just boggles my mind that these assholes are able to get away with this shit and haven't been charged. But that's just my opinion. What do you think about these 'save the whales' activists and their war against the Japanese whaling industry?

Edit: found a better video to show what I mean about the Sea Shepherd intentionally ramming japanese whaling vessels.
 

BloatedGuppy

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This isn't Whale Wars. This is ship wars.

THIS is Whale Wars.



OT...fuck the whalers, seriously. Vigilantism is bad, and I don't support it on principle, but it couldn't happen to a shittier industry so I can't really be moved to care.
 

felbot

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good question, how do they get away with this? im fairly sure ramming your boat in to a another boat is illegal, i mean endangering peoples lives is surely not a legal thing?
 

Keoul

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"embedding disabled by request" Maybe get another video? :D

On topic: The activists are risking lives for no good reason, do they really think a scrape is gunna stop a whaler? and even then they have the balls to blame the whalers for the damage they sustained. "Yeah we got scrapped down the side and they screwed our door up"
They're doing the whole "save the whales" thing far too aggressively, ramming other ships is just not acceptable, jeez you do that with cars and that's jail time.

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I don't support whaling, let me make that clear right now. But I think Paul Watson and his crew ought to be hung from the yardarm as befits pirates. What continues to baffle me is why the Japanese don't return fire. A modern harpoon gun will do a hell of a lot of damage.
 

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I am not opposed to whaling, unless it's the kind that we see in this show: Very aggressive, and with no thought given to sustainability.
On the other hand, the "good guys" of the show annoy me so fucking much with their "holier than thou" attitude and vigilantism. The program is just a mess of bad things.
 

TheIronRuler

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Watch SouthPark.

No. Before you go forward.
Watch the SouthPark Whale Whores episode.

Then come back and have a discussion. I've watched it. I don't like the show. Not at all.
 

Soviet Heavy

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TheIronRuler said:
Watch SouthPark.

No. Before you go forward.
Watch the SouthPark Whale Whores episode.

Then come back and have a discussion. I've watched it. I don't like the show. Not at all.
Fucka you dorphins, anna fucka you whales!
 

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Its a lesser of two evils kinda thing isnt it.

On one hand we have the Whalers who hunt an already endangered species.

On the other hand we have a twat called Paul Watson trying desperately to be some kind of sea vigilante.
 

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Yeah don't enjoy the vigilantism these Whale War dudes do. They come off as huge self righteous pricks but at the same time I hate the whaling industry and think it needs to be done away with. At least someone is doing something *shrug*. That video is pretty bad though... people can die you wackos stahp
 

The Madman

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Waste of time, money and effort that could go towards actual good causes as opposed to a bunch of self-righteous idiots throwing stink bombs at other boats so they can feel good about themselves.
 

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I watch the show because I like to laugh at how hilariously incompetent they are. Last season they nearly sunk one of their own boats (Protip: Fiberglass boats in Antartic waters means you're gonna have a bad time).

Seriously it's worth watching just to watch these disorganized hippies stumple around on deck then act all indignant when the Japanese take ANY measure to push them away.
 

Soviet Heavy

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senordesol said:
I watch the show because I like to laugh at how hilariously incompetent they are. Last season they nearly sunk one of their own boats (Protip: Fiberglass boats in Antartic waters means you're gonna have a bad time).

Seriously it's worth watching just to watch these disorganized hippies stumple around on deck then act all indignant when the Japanese take ANY measure to push them away.
Wasn't that the boat that looked like something Batman would own? Because they were too stupid to get out of the way of an oncoming ship ten times the size of their little scout ship?
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
In my completely uninformed opinion based solely on youtube clips of the series, I have to side with the whalers. I may not agree with excessive whaling, but at least they don't fucking ram their ships into other vessels to make a point.
It just boggles my mind that these assholes are able to get away with this shit and haven't been charged. But that's just my opinion. What do you think about these 'save the whales' activists and their war against the Japanese whaling industry?

Edit: found a better video to show what I mean about the Sea Shepherd intentionally ramming Japanese whaling vessels.
What? Because the Westerners are jerks you side with the Japanese who are lying about what they are really doing? Really? Tell me, are you also ok with animal cruelty because PETA can be annoying? Regardless of how Sea Shepard acts, you should be against illegal whaling that is done by the Japanese under the mask of "scientific research".

This video seems relevant....
 

Soviet Heavy

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Helmholtz Watson said:
Soviet Heavy said:
In my completely uninformed opinion based solely on youtube clips of the series, I have to side with the whalers. I may not agree with excessive whaling, but at least they don't fucking ram their ships into other vessels to make a point.
It just boggles my mind that these assholes are able to get away with this shit and haven't been charged. But that's just my opinion. What do you think about these 'save the whales' activists and their war against the Japanese whaling industry?

Edit: found a better video to show what I mean about the Sea Shepherd intentionally ramming Japanese whaling vessels.
What? Because the Westerners are jerks you side with the Japanese who are lying about what they are really doing? Really? Tell me are you also ok with animal cruelty because PETA can be annoying? Regardless of how Sea Shepard acts, you should be against illegal whaling that is done by the Japanese under the mask of "scientific research".

This video seems relevant....
You're equating me disagreeing with Sea Shepherds with endorsing illegal whaling. I don't like whaling, but I also think that they should be allowed to sail without being rammed by a bunch of goons in a fifty foot long ship.

And drop the PETA crap. They kill more animals in their "care" centers than a lot of the people they target. Whether or not the whaling is legal, what the Sea Shepherds do IS illegal. And the Japanese don't try to assault other ships.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Soviet Heavy said:
Whether or not the whaling is legal, what the Sea Shepherds do IS illegal. And the Japanese don't try to assault other ships.
Your right, the Japanese whalers just lie about what they are doing so that they can exploit some legal loophole and "legally" hunt whales. Yeah, that's much better.
/sarcasm
 

Hagi

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It's probably not considered a solution to just sink both ships, say it's an accident and call it a day is it?

A bunch of dicks ramming a bunch of assholes.

Can't say I care much.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Helmholtz Watson said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Whether or not the whaling is legal, what the Sea Shepherds do IS illegal. And the Japanese don't try to assault other ships.
Your right, the Japanese whalers just lie about what they are doing so that they can exploit some legal loophole and "legally" hunt whales. Yeah, that's much better.
/sarcasm
Now you're just being confrontational for the sake of it instead of trying to push a discussion. You are telling me that my stance is wrong, in no uncertain terms, that I should not be supporting Japanese whaling (which I never once said I did support), and you are ignoring the actions that these eco terrorists are taking.

If you would kindly answer the question I posed, rather than attacking my stance because I think that one group of assholes ramming another group of assholes offends you so much.
 

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Look, I don't like whaling, but what they do on that show, regardless of the ethical or legal implications of it, isn't helping anything. If they instead tried to actually spend their money and time lobbying to the Japanese government or doing something else useful, I would probably respect them. As it stand now, they're self-ritious fuckwads who care more about boosting their self-image of being badasses than actually doing anything helpful.
 

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I hate everyone involved. Whale wars people strike me as stupid attention whores, the whalers are short sighted.

Anyway, kind of of on topic, here is a clip from chaser's war on everything about the whaling.