People suck in general

[RaikuFA]

Who agrees with me on this?

Lately people have been trying to encourage others to go out and meet others and to me, it's not worth it. Take that Pokemon GO game, all I've been hearing is people saying they can talk to people now but why would you want to? Those people will go back to ignoring/berating you for some asinine reason(didn't pick their team or some bull).*

I've never seen the point of really trying to interact with others as other people are just horrible. Anyone agree with me on this and think I'm the introvert Jesus or they think MLP FiM is right** and I'm just horrible for not having a lot of friends?

*To note I haven't talked to another person IRL about this game and the day I do is the day pigs take over as the dominant species.

**Humor

 

[DefunctTheory]

Uh... no.

People aren't generally terrible, or sucky. Most people are pretty good, at the very least. Most people are kind when they can be, they don't steal, they don't try to be assholes, and they like being happy and making other people happy.

If everyone you meet is crap, then you need to start looking at where you're at, and, failing finding a fault there, at yourself. I say this as a generally unpleasant individual who rubs people the wrong way, usually without trying to do so - If 99 out of a 100 people you meet 'suck,' then there's a good chance that it's not the 100 random people who are at fault, but the person who's been part of every single one of those 100 interactions.

 

[Queen Michael]

If you think everybody sucks, that says something about you, not about them.

 

[RaikuFA]

Uh... no.

People aren't generally terrible, or sucky. Most people are pretty good, at the very least. Most people are kind when they can be, they don't steal, they don't try to be assholes, and they like being happy and making other people happy.

If everyone you meet is crap, then you need to start looking at where you're at, and, failing finding a fault there, at yourself. I say this as a generally unpleasant individual who rubs people the wrong way, usually without trying to do so - If 99 out of a 100 people you meet 'suck,' then there's a good chance that it's not the 100 random people who are at fault, but the person who's been part of every single one of those 100 interactions.

TBF I live in NJ where trying to be friendly is grounds for the death penalty.

Also considering I grew up without friends and had peers hurting me through school, then when I went to HS I finally made some friends only for them to have outings and not invite me then wonder why I don't get the jokes they're making that I don't get because I wasn't there or why I'm mad at them. Or the fact that I was made fun of because I couldn't get a date. I learned then that people just want to use others for personal gain.

Also I worked retail for 10 years and every customer is just an entitled twat.

 

[Parasondox]

I don't think it's people in general. I think it's just you. Being anti-social is unhealthy for both the mind and body. If you are anti social because of people around you, then do what I do. Go out and meet new people. Some will be good, others will be bad. We can't predict the outcome. Gain a new hobby or interest while you are at it and go to weekend events if free. You don't need loads of friends either. A comfortable handful is sound at best. Also don't serve your entire life story in a platter at the first go. Leave a little room for mystery.

Oh, one last thing. Look up. Strange advice but hear me out. When you are outside walking, what do you do most often? Have your head up and looking forward seeing whats around you, or do you look down on the ground avoiding things? The former gives you a better view of the world and in a small way have you gaining a bit of confidence because people will find you approachable, whether asking for the time or what bus goes to where. The latter may make people assume you are hostile and unapproachable. You'd rather keep to yourself and not interact with the world around you. Looking up with a small smile may add to the brightness and may bring out good in others too.

People may suck but there are those who will general care and love others and respect who they are no matter the differences. More love, less hostility.

 

[KissingSunlight]

I agree. There have been a severe lack of intelligence and basic civility in the past 10 - 15 years. The same time that the internet and cell phones have been adopted by the mainstream. I am not saying those are the reasons why people suck. There does seems to be a strong correlation.

The common theme I find with people's general suckiness is that they don't pay attention or care how their behavior negatively affects other people around them.

I try not to have such a negative attitude about people in general. Everytime I try, I am constantly confronted by people who makes sure that my negative attitude is more than justified.

 

[balladbird]

Ehh... I'll be the first to concede that humans have our fair share of pretty horrible traits. We're all myopic and prone to confirmation bias, regardless how aware we are of these things and how we try to avoid them. We're all insular, tribal,and innately fearful of people, races, or ideologies that we perceive as being outside the 'us' portion of the "Us and Them" bubble. What's more, our brains are, quite literally, wired in such a way that we subconsciously inflate all of our good qualities, while rationalizing and justifying our bad qualities, resulting in our having a skewed perception of ourselves in relation to others.

All that said, I like people, and while everything I said above is true, cynically using it as a baseline for how humans will react has proven to result in failed predictions time and again.

If horror and post-apocalypse movies were to be believed, humans are just one rule of law away from tearing each other to pieces while shrieking like baboons, but disaster after disaster after disaster have proven otherwise. People naturally become cooperative when things go south.

Likewise, thought experiments like "The Prisoner's Dilemma", which is a scenario that offers the greatest possible personal reward if one betrays a person who trusts them, have had surprising results when put into practical application. Humans are overwhelmingly more likely to cooperate than to betray one another, even when betrayal would be the fastest route to personal gain.

I dunno, man... I understand why you feel the way you do, but the odds are we're in the same age group... and that means you're way too young to have passed judgement on all of humanity just yet. Most of us are pretty okay, even the ones I don't agree with very much!

 

[RaikuFA]

If you think everybody sucks, that says something about you, not about them.

But what about people who are supposed to help me? My computer is still busted because no will help me fix it without paying them a lot of money.

 

[DefunctTheory]

If you think everybody sucks, that says something about you, not about them.

But what about people who are supposed to help me? My computer is still busted because no will help me fix it without paying them a lot of money.

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What? Who's 'supposed' to be helping you for free?

You know what, never mind. This thread is either an intentional trap, or an unintentional detour through a mine field. I'm going to assume it's the later, because I don't like thinking people are bad unless they prove it's a reasonable thing to assume. All the same...

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[RaikuFA]

If you think everybody sucks, that says something about you, not about them.

But what about people who are supposed to help me? My computer is still busted because no will help me fix it without paying them a lot of money.

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What? Who's 'supposed' to be helping you for free?

I never said free. But I'm not paying $200 to get it diagnosed and whatever else it would cost to actually fix it. And I couldn't learn how to do this stuff.

 

[tippy2k2]

I go with the Harry Dresden philosophy: "As a whole, people suck, but a person can be extraordinary"

As a vague concept, people are selfish assholes who look out for #1 no matter how it affects everyone else.

When it comes to individuals, I find that a person is generally OK. I'm not sure how much that your region would matter but we have a version of nice named after my region (Minnesota Nice [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice]) so I imagine where you are at makes a big difference. I know things that I could do here walking by strangers (nod, smile, make eye contact, etc.) was noted as weird and a big no no when I lived in New York City.

 

[RaikuFA]

I know things that I could do here walking by strangers (nod, smile, make eye contact, etc.) was noted as weird and a big no no when I lived in New York City.

Yeah I'm in NJ and its pretty bad here too. CA wasn't so bad with it though.

 

[RaikuFA]

Likewise, thought experiments like "The Prisoner's Dilemma", which is a scenario that offers the greatest possible personal reward if one betrays a person who trusts them, have had surprising results when put into practical application. Humans are overwhelmingly more likely to cooperate than to betray one another, even when betrayal would be the fastest route to personal gain.

If I could do it without any repercussions from my family I'd sell my brother out to the police as fast as I could. After what hes done to me I'd love to report his actions towards me to the police.

 

[Scarim Coral]

While I do kinda agreed but what does it say about you OP? I mean sure people suck but I don't generalise the entire race.

 

[RaikuFA]

While I do kinda agreed but what does it say about you OP? I mean sure people suck but I don't generalise the entire race.

Sadly, I don't really want to either but with how things have been for me socially I have difficulty seeing it any other way. I didn't have friends growing up,was constantly bullied even had two teachers encourage it. I was pretty much taught back then that people suck.

 

[EternallyBored]

I would say a lot of it seems to be your attitude, honestly, I work in social work, dealing with the lower rungs of society, before that I was a security guard, bouncing drunk dipshits from night clubs and strip clubs, and before that I worked retail.

Even my views on humanity, as cynical as I can be sometimes, don't approach the pity party you seem to be throwing yourself. Yeah, the world doesn't work like MLP, you don't make friends by the end of a 22 minute episode, but most people aren't nearly as bad as you seem to think they are, and I've been to New Jersey, I have friends from there, its not some special circle of hell exempt from the rest of America.

If you are indeed not very social, then its going to be more difficult for you, you are essentially working with a handicap, and depending on your ability to socialize (how good you are with social cues and not saying shit that annoys or pisses off the people around you), may find it very hard to get people to like you, that sucks, but that's the way life goes. Socializing can be scary, but people can make the whole thing worth it, even if it hurts at first, you'll fail, depending on your skills, you may fail a lot, but so does pretty much everyone. The biggest mistake people make is in failing and giving up too soon, one thing I learned watching people in night clubs try to socialize is that even charismatic people failed, got rejected, even pissed other people off, the general difference is that they didn't stop trying until they succeeded and found someone that clicked with them.

 

[Barbas]

Well, you're entitled to your opinion of course, but if that's how you really feel then I don't think this thread is really going to help.