Pet Peeves in MMO's and Online Gaming.

[Bat Vader]

I don't know how much discussion value there will be but I am curious as to what people dislike or find irritating in MMO's and online gaming.

One of my biggest pet peeves in MMO's is when someone I don't know sends me an invite without asking. I try not to be rude. If someone sends me an invite I just decline it. It's when they continue to spam invites is when I get annoyed. If I didn't want to help you the first time what makes you think I am going to help you the next six times you send me an invite.

It happened in Destiny last night. Someone sent me an invite and I declined it and they proceeded to send me four more invites after that. I reported the person and then I ended up blocking him/her. If you want my help or want me to team up for something just take the two seconds to send me a message first. Don't just invite me because that irks me.

Back when I played WoW one person even insulted me because I had the audacity to decline their invite.

That is one of my biggest pet peeves in MMO's.

What are your pet peeves in MMO's and online gaming?

 

[Elfgore]

Hey, I came in here ready to say the same thing! With the exact same thing happening on Destiny. The struggle of playing with a female avatar is real.

Though that one is fresh, it isn't the worst. This one is so bad, it has effectively made me stop playing MOBAs. The blame game, AKA: "It's everyone else's fault but my own." When I lose my lane because I fucked up, I will take any blame. But when my team mates get baited into outnumbered and outgunned team fights and get slaughtered. Then go into all chat screaming "This Gnar isn't helping. Report for troll!" It made me almost snap. Game after game, in normals too. Not ranked. So nothing on the line here. They just have to win.

 

[Bat Vader]

Hey, I came in here ready to say the same thing! With the exact same thing happening on Destiny. The struggle of playing with a female avatar is real.

Though that one is fresh, it isn't the worst. This one is so bad, it has effectively made me stop playing MOBAs. The blame game, AKA: "It's everyone else's fault but my own." When I lose my lane because I fucked up, I will take any blame. But when my team mates get baited into outnumbered and outgunned team fights and get slaughtered. Then go into all chat screaming "This Gnar isn't helping. Report for troll!" It made me almost snap. Game after game, in normals too. Not ranked. So nothing on the line here. They just have to win.

I tried playing League of Legends a few times and the exact same thing happened to me too. I was already hesitant enough because I heard how bad the community was but decided to try it. After getting blamed for losing three times and getting insulted for it I said screw it and quit the game.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Chief MMO complaints, mostly taken from my 10 years experience with WoW...

1. Intolerant PUG Raid Leaders: To further define this, we're talking recently opened raids... Aside from the easy mechanics of "don't stand in stuff that causes damage", there are some mechanics players might not get right away. But the Intolerant Raid Leader demands perfection and kicks anyone who dies during a fight. Never mind the fact that most people didn't beta test these raids and watching a walkthrough video isn't a substitute for learning the mechanics while playing. If one is going to PUG a brand new raid, one should take into consideration that not all party members will know the fight 100%. This also applies to instance PUGs, especially low-level ones where you may run into newbie players who're just experiencing said dungeon for the first time and not the 1000th or so.

2. The dude in trade chat or Stormwind/Orgrimmar begging for gold for his toon. Seriously? The time it takes one to beg for maybe 10g you could make that much doing crafting mat runs in low-mid level areas.

3. "I need sigs for my guild!!"-guy. If you're going to start a guild as an alt-bank, fine and dandy but at least offer a few gold to folks for helping you out. Time isn't free on WoW bub, even the time it takes to sign your damn guild charter.

4. The PvP elitist who sits in trade and downs the PvE players or complains that there isn't enough PvP guilds on a PvE server. Dude, go transfer to a PvP server please.

5. The troll in chat who complains about every little change to the game and touts loudly how he/she is quitting WOW because its "nothing but scrub casual n00bs now" but remains in the game for months on end. If you're going to quit, fucking quit already.

6. The people who complain about getting screwed by the RNG. Don't argue with the dice bro, they'll win every damn time.

Honorable mentions: Every time I get a Guild invite on a new toon from someone I don't know, that was totally unsolicited. Constant duel requests after stating "I'm busy" or flat out just declining. And the ever present (though somehow shrinking in number) chat spam from gold/item sellers with horrible english. And finally people selling shit in trade for way more than it is worth.

 

[Cowabungaa]

I'm casually playing Star Wars: The Old Republic, and last time I did so I had someone swear me out simply for standing slightly close. Now, that was one thing, and I sure buggered him for it, but then he said something that really stuck with me. He told me that displaying civil behavior goes against how you should play SWTOR or indeed any MMO.

And I must say, I think that's what a lot of people seem to feel, just not so explicit as that one jerk. And that really is a pet peeve of mine as I believe that civil discourse belongs in any public space, virtual or otherwise.

 

[Jandau]

I'm currently playing FF14 and I honestly have no complaints. Almost everyone I've met is nice, reasonable and fairly polite. They help out when needed, they don't burst into a rage if something goes wrong in a dungeon run, they inform the general chat regarding rare spawns and assist each other with quests even if there's not much in it for them. It's like playing with actual human beings...

 

[Lilani]

I also play FF14 like the above poster, and while on the whole the community is very nice, there are still a few bad apples in every bunch. The main ones I see are elitists who want to speedrun everything and blow up at the first mistake, or start trash talking and making snarky comments for no reason at all, or people who don't to basic courtesies like announce when you are going to go afk or don't give you a heal or help with a fight when you're about to die it's perfectly within their capabilities to do so.

 

[gorfias]

I avoid them like the plague for the following reasons, sometimes, opposite to each other:
1) Extra cost of playing an MMO for which I already paid!
2) Free to plays that keep trying to sell me stuff to play.
3) The need to do multi-gig "upgrade" downloads nearly every time I log on.
4) People who are far better than me wanting to know why I suck. (Single player, I play at my own pace on easy).

 

[babinro]

My pet peeves with MMO's relate to the stereotypical game mechanics used which prevent me from truly sticking with any MMO to begin with.

1) Taking as much or more time to travel to a quest than to do the quest

2) Having to return to a quest giver for rewards (since this process alone typically takes several minutes and is done hundreds and hundreds of times)

3) Long expansive corridors separating key merchants and the like. Needlessly lengthening the time it takes to do routine things like sell gear, crafting mats, AH, etc.

4) Making faster movement a reward. No one finds it fun to level and alt at a slow movement speed for 20 hours. Also...if you expand zone sizes along with the movement speed boosts then the net change in time saved is zero. The speed boost now only makes a difference in towns.

5) Needlessly complicated crafting systems. If your crafting system works best after I've researched it online..you've failed at it's design.

6) Dailies: Limiting a players fun is not fun in my opinion. Let them do something multiple times if they choose to.

To sum up. This genre is too focused boring grind. It should concentrate on letting the players get to the fun stuff as fast as possible and automating the mundane stuff whenever possible (or at least give the players the option to).

 

[Denamic]

I killed Onyxia. I killed Ragnaros. Twice. I killed Illidan, Gruul and Kael'thas. I killed fucking Deathwing. Then some new horde faction comes up and is all like "lol who's this nub? Grind rep for us so we'll like you." Fuck you. I could incinerate you all with a goddamn thought at this point. You grind rep for ME!

 

[Lilani]

I avoid them like the plague for the following reasons, sometimes, opposite to each other:
1) Extra cost of playing an MMO for which I already paid!
2) Free to plays that keep trying to sell me stuff to play.
3) The need to do multi-gig "upgrade" downloads nearly every time I log on.
4) People who are far better than me wanting to know why I suck. (Single player, I play at my own pace on easy).

Goodness, you've had some bad experiences with MMOs, lol. I can't say anything about others, but with FF14 there are always seasonal events going on which offer extra miniquests and seasonal items. Basically as soon as one event ends, another begins. And there have been a couple of major patches now which not only tweak what's already there, but also have added major chunks of story content. The amount of content they've added simply in updates amounts to what many games now would call an "expansion pack" and charge extra for. But those updates only come once in every few months, any updates in the meantime are only every few weeks or so and don't take more than a few minutes to download even with my slow Internet.

It is a subscription game so there's no paywalls, but like I said they are so frequently changing up events and adding fresh content it genuinely feels like a service, not like I'm being lead on by a pay leash. And while every online experience will have elitists telling everybody they suck, the vast majority of your game time will still be spent essentially playing "single player." You're still around other people and you can get a guild (or linkshell as they're called in FF14), but it's not like you're unable to step foot outside of town without a full party.

 

[gorfias]

It is a subscription game so there's no paywalls, but like I said they are so frequently changing up events and adding fresh content it genuinely feels like a service, not like I'm being lead on by a pay leash. And while every online experience will have elitists telling everybody they suck, the vast majority of your game time will still be spent essentially playing "single player." You're still around other people and you can get a guild (or linkshell as they're called in FF14), but it's not like you're unable to step foot outside of town without a full party.

Can those on PC play against those on PS3 and PS4? EDIT: Steam calls it a cross platform mutli-player. I'm thinking that means more than just that it can be played on more than one platform.

Steam has it for $22.49 for the CE PC edition. Once registered, you get 30 days free. What is it after that?

Thanks for any advice you can share.

 

[Lilani]

It is a subscription game so there's no paywalls, but like I said they are so frequently changing up events and adding fresh content it genuinely feels like a service, not like I'm being lead on by a pay leash. And while every online experience will have elitists telling everybody they suck, the vast majority of your game time will still be spent essentially playing "single player." You're still around other people and you can get a guild (or linkshell as they're called in FF14), but it's not like you're unable to step foot outside of town without a full party.

Can those on PC play against those on PS3 and PS4? EDIT: Steam calls it a cross platform mutli-player. I'm thinking that means more than just that it can be played on more than one platform.

Steam has it for $22.49 for the CE PC edition. Once registered, you get 30 days free. What is it after that?

Thanks for any advice you can share.

Yup, PCs, PS3's, and PS4's all play in perfect harmony, all at the same time and on the same servers. After the 30 day trial, it's $12.99 per month for your first six characters. Though I can't imagine anybody wanting more than six characters, it takes enough time just to get one through things, lol.

 

[gorfias]

Yup, PCs, PS3's, and PS4's all play in perfect harmony, all at the same time and on the same servers. After the 30 day trial, it's $12.99 per month for your first six characters. Though I can't imagine anybody wanting more than six characters, it takes enough time just to get one through things, lol.

Yikes! That's actually a bit rich for my blood! Still, the non-CE edition is only $12.49 with 30 days to see if I get hooked. I'm going to try that.

Thanks for all your advice!

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

My complaints come from 8 years of World of Warcraft, 1 year of Warframe and about 2 years of various other games:

1. Mob Taggers/Farmers. Now, I understand farming and grinding in MMOs. I really, really do - I have an achievement in WoW that required about a month of farming level 65 mobs - but it annoys me to no end the mindless farmers, the ones who run in and just AoE everything down without consideration for people questing in the area. Like, it's not hard to look out for someone doing a quest and not AoE-spamming every enemy so you alone get all the loot.

I thought they (WoW) fixed that to where if you damage it as long as you're not opposing factions you still get credit for the kill and loot. Or maybe it was just for World Bosses... I finished MoP and took some needed time off after Siege. next month is going to be awesome gearing up to fight Ragnaros again for one last Molten Core run...

2. Rare thieves. So, the MMO has rare spawns that give awesome rewards. Sweet. However, these rares take a bit of time to fight and are a decent challenge. Alright. Oh hey, a couple dudes just came over, maybe they'll help out! ...No, they just hit the mob once and are hanging back. Oh. They're those guys. The kind of asshole who waits like a Vulture for you to die so they can jump in and claim the rare kill for themselves. Tied into the tagging issue above, though it's a special kind of asshole who does this. I'm so thankful that Rares in the next WoW expansion are gonna be all tag.

However, there is a glorious, if petty, feeling of joy you get when someone steals a rare from you then you steal that same rare back. Fuck you random hunter! Solix is mine! Hahahahahahaha!

I loved feigning death as a hunter when people tried to tag my rare and not help with the kill, just to watch them get owned by the MoP rares that could one shot people not paying attention (especially the Pandarens who would one shot if you were far enough away)

3. Elitist Puggers. Those guys who, in a PuG, expect you to be pulling top-tier damage. Dude, I'm in questing blues on an Alt or I'm carrying a gun I'm trying to level without any mods equipped. You aren't gonna get Heroic-Raiding dps, and I'm gonna give a sigh of relief when you inevitably rage quit.

These guys just... seriously if you're going to PuG, don't complain about the people you end up with. My theory is that these players are such assholes they can't even get in a guild group.

4. 'It didn't drop first time I hate this' guys. RNG is an asshole all gamers must deal with, ever since the first pen and paper games hit the table. Maybe after 50 runs you can *****, but if after two and you still don't have that item that has a 10% drop rate, don't rage quit and scream at people.

Yep, those people are such morons... I love flaunting to those people my legendary Phoenix mount I got on the first drop from The Eye. And my Horseman's Reins...

5. PvP Jerks. PvP is a totally acceptable way to enjoy your MMO experience. Fighting other players in arenas, battlegrounds or duels is A.O.K. What isn't is when you start shitting on people for enjoying PvE more than PvP or demanding that the game dumps it's PvE side and focuses solely on the PvP.

Yep. We are in agreement on this.

Sounds like you have the same general view on WoW and MMOs as I do... and probably hate griefers of every sort as much as well.

 

[Lilani]

Yup, PCs, PS3's, and PS4's all play in perfect harmony, all at the same time and on the same servers. After the 30 day trial, it's $12.99 per month for your first six characters. Though I can't imagine anybody wanting more than six characters, it takes enough time just to get one through things, lol.

Yikes! That's actually a bit rich for my blood! Still, the non-CE edition is only $12.49 with 30 days to see if I get hooked. I'm going to try that.

Thanks for all your advice!

Yeah, I'll admit I buy fewer other games now that I play FF14 lol. Though it basically evens out because it also takes up a lot of my gaming time, as well.

My only other advice for just starting out is don't pick Maurader or Gladiator as your class. Those become the tanking classes, and the only problem with FF14's party structure is the tanks are kind of expected to lead everything, which is tough when you're new. All the other classes are healers or DPS which are much easier to learn on without the pressure of knowing where you're going. Conjurer is the first main healing class, and Archanist starts as a DPS then at level 30 branches out into either a healer or DPS depending on which way you choose to proceed.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

I hate people who ping all the time in DOTA2, or people who ping without providing context. If you ping our jungle without saying anything, do you mean 'caution, don't go there' or do you mean 'go there'? We don't know buddy, help us out.

Also, I've had people report me for killstealing when I was playing the freaking hard carry. Here I was thinking that antimage grows really well with farm, but I'm sure getting brown boots on your jakiro is more important...

 

[Sleepy Sol]

I'm currently playing FF14 and I honestly have no complaints. Almost everyone I've met is nice, reasonable and fairly polite. They help out when needed, they don't burst into a rage if something goes wrong in a dungeon run, they inform the general chat regarding rare spawns and assist each other with quests even if there's not much in it for them. It's like playing with actual human beings...

I also play FF14 like the above poster, and while on the whole the community is very nice, there are still a few bad apples in every bunch. The main ones I see are elitists who want to speedrun everything and blow up at the first mistake, or start trash talking and making snarky comments for no reason at all, or people who don't to basic courtesies like announce when you are going to go afk or don't give you a heal or help with a fight when you're about to die it's perfectly within their capabilities to do so.

I also play FF14, and I'd say it's generally pretty pleasant as well. But playing on Balmung can make the negatives a bit more pronounced at times.

One of my biggest peeves at the moment is our raid group's strict adherence to raiding times and the chastising of people who are late, often due to uncontrollable circumstances.

I also get peeved going into dungeons and seeing a person be horribly lazy with their class, like a Monk that doesn't even do combos or a Dragoon that only does the same three attacks over and over without regard to the 20+ other skills they could be utilizing to be much more efficient. But I guess that's not a huge deal.

 

[Trude]

Illiteracy and people not treating the Internet as they would the real world. "It's just a game!" or "y so serious" are poor excuses for behaviour that would get you curb stomped to the nearest signpost.