Plot holes/overthinking when watching films/movies - what gets the vinegar in your blood boiling?

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Chilli Dog

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Thank you to all those who replied to my first thread, it was a pleasure to read the responses.

The topic of this thread came to me last night whilst I watching Batman Returns but this can be about any film/DVD/movie you have seen at your local Cineplex that has got you standing up, pumping your fist and yelling at the lead character as he picks up an artefact that has decimated 20 other people - "Don't open the box you tool!"

My question is do you find yourself overthinking when watching a film within the context that you have suspended your disbelief to take account that there could be aliens, Batman, Road Runner, The Lord Almighty, Robin Hood in Space within this fantasy world just to have some utterly stupid turn of events snap you back into reality like an elastic band to the eyeball socket.

Let's take Batman Returns as an example (this is a movie that I quite liked for the way Christopher Walken pronounces "Chip" and for him flushing his previous business partner down the toilet - hello? Gotham is not the dark ages, sure I doubt they have a CSI Team there but did he surely think that no-one would come across the body? A tiny bit naive there I feel).

Selina Kyle gets bitten by cats after falling out of a window (as you do - man, I am never going to let my cats go hungry ever again, they might tuck into me while I am asleep) to find herself back in her abode. She then proceeds to go postal on her pretty pink apartment, shoving toys down the garbage disposal (believable), finds one black PVC leather "catsuit" amongst her hundreds of other plain pretty clothes ("Whut?!" - the dirty cow, it's always the quiet office types - takes one to know one) to then locate a can of spray paint and redecorate the apartment with a continuous black line across the wall (OK, hello? Why would she have a can of black spray paint, unless she was planning to spray on comedy moustaches on her Percy the Pig and Tigger soft toys - my suspension of disbelief account subscription just got cancelled).

It seems that some film writers have these clear concepts of getting from A to B and in order to get there, they have their characters doing either really dumb things or there are things left conveniently lying around for them to achieve their goals with.

So brethren, what film scenes do you find yourself thinking out loud "She's not going in there alone is she? Into the room where there was just a blood curdling scream? Without a weapon? And her mobile isn't working? Doesn't she have a pager or something? *Getting more exasperated* Pick up that stick on the floor with a nail in it! Now you've twisted your ankle? Use the stick as a splint for your mangled foot! *Jumping up on the table now* You can still get away - throw a rock at your assailant! Now he's tripped up and is unconscious. *Flapping arms frantically* Don't stand over the body to gloat! Ho Jesus, this chick is toast!"

(Could be it is just me but I'd like to hear your own views. Ta muchly)
 

Legion

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Ignoring all the idiotic characters in horror/thriller films who decide that splitting up or going into dark rooms unarmed when they know there's a killer around, I'd have to say one of strangest plot holes was in 'The Dark Knight'.

During the film Bruce Wayne (Batman for those unfamiliar) hosts a fund-raiser for Harvey Dent in his Penthouse apartment. The Joker and a group of his thugs break in to try and kill Harvey.

Later on in the film Harvey asks his girlfriend if there is anywhere she can stay that is safe in the city, she replies "Bruce's penthouse is the only safe place in this city right now".

Considering it was broken into during a fund-raiser for an important man of the city when you'd think there'd be guards, how the hell would it be safe when there's nobody there but her?
 

Chilli Dog

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That my man is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about and you score triple points for using Batman as an example - well done sir!
 

Kiutu

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I need to learn that spoiler thing, cause mine is one to a movie thats actually not old.






Though mild, the flirtyness of 9 and the 'female' in 9. They are sacks. They have no genitals or reproductive organs or sex or gender. One was just a tad feminine.
Also the end part, the fact his soul is in all of em, so in thi sheaven he must only be partl there.
 

scrambledeggs

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Almost all movies have these sorts of plot holes and convenient circumstances. For me, at least, it makes the movie interesting, even though I do find myself scalding them.
 

FROGGEman2

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The 2012 trailer.

"Science has proved it... ...but no one thought it could ever happen!"

Youtube /=/ Science.
 

Altorin

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pretty much the amnesia bit in Xmen Origins Wolverine..

I heard the same line in the video game "His brain may heal, but his memories won't!", and it didn't send me into a fit... I think something about an actual person holding an actual gun and saying that line made my skin crawl.
 

Spacelord

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Kiutu said:
I need to learn that spoiler thing, cause mine is one to a movie thats actually not old.

Though mild, the flirtyness of 9 and the 'female' in 9. They are sacks. They have no genitals or reproductive organs or sex or gender. One was just a tad feminine.
Also the end part, the fact his soul is in all of em, so in thi sheaven he must only be partl there.
No biggie, I had the feeling 9 would be a forgettable watch anyway, judging from MovieBob's review.

Ontopic: the entire premise of the movie Crank could have been solved equally well by applying adrenalin shots liberally. Hospitals have tons of the stuff. See a doctor, tell him to give you adrenalin, you live without having to do all kinds of crazy shit. That said: that movie still ROCKS.
 

Kiutu

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Spacelord said:
Kiutu said:
I need to learn that spoiler thing, cause mine is one to a movie thats actually not old.

Though mild, the flirtyness of 9 and the 'female' in 9. They are sacks. They have no genitals or reproductive organs or sex or gender. One was just a tad feminine.
Also the end part, the fact his soul is in all of em, so in thi sheaven he must only be partl there.
No biggie, I had the feeling 9 would be a forgettable watch anyway, judging from MovieBob's review.

Ontopic: the entire premise of the movie Crank could have been solved equally well by applying adrenalin shots liberally. Hospitals have tons of the stuff. See a doctor, tell him to give you adrenalin, you live without having to do all kinds of crazy shit. That said: that movie still ROCKS.
Thanks. And for you, if you go to see a movie like Crank, well...it would be a plot hole if there are NO plot holes.
 

Spacelord

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Kiutu said:
And for you, if you go to see a movie like Crank, well...it would be a plot hole if there are NO plot holes.
Ha, yeah I suppose you do have a point. It wasn't at all bothersome, really. It wasn't exactly meant to make any sense, and it sure showed. :D

Another example then: I thought the plot twist in The Dark Knight was pretty weak when
Harvey Dent made a face-heel turn based on a little chaos-theory blurb from the Joker... well that and having half his face burned to hell. I mean I know that must suck, but still. Would you re-evaluate your entire outlook on life and undo all your work based on a five minute rant by a self-identified madman?!
Yeah that was a pretty big gyp.
 

Saris Kai

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Ever since my grade 12 Writers Craft and Studies in Literature courses I have not been able to avoid deconstructing novels, film and television. In my own defense I find when you need to write a script for a TV show breaking continuity is often the only way to avoid extra scenes to save screen time and if your lucky you'll be able to hang a light shade on it after without being to obvious. In movies its less necessary so that's just poor work.