Poll: 1337speak vs Textspeak

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black lincon

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This is a topic that came up a little while ago in my lit class, after taking away someones phone she made a mention of being amazed that our generation had invented their own language which she referred to as 1337speak.

I thought that was slightly funny, I was the biggest gamer in the class and I know as a fact that no one in that class had ever used 1337speak. I told her that there was a difference between 1337speak and textspeak and at best textspeak is a bastardized version of 1337speak. she told me that I was absolutely wrong and that she wrote a paper on the subject in collage making her the expert, I wasn't in any particular mood to argue and simply let it go.

So I ask you, as the gamer populace, is 1337speak the same thing as textspeak?
 

xanith02100

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No, they are not the same. True 1337 uses absolutely none of the letters found in the English alphabet. Textspeak borrows very little from 1337, but mostly is shorthand and abbreviations.

Here is the difference.
ths is txt
7|-||5 |5 1337
 

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black lincon said:
This is a topic that came up a little while ago in my lit class, after taking away someones phone she made a mention of being amazed that our generation had invented their own language which she referred to as 1337speak.

I thought that was slightly funny, I was the biggest gamer in the class and I know as a fact that no one in that class had ever used 1337speak. I told her that there was a difference between 1337speak and textspeak and at best textspeak is a bastardized version of 1337speak. she told me that I was absolutely wrong and that she wrote a paper on the subject in collage making her the expert, I wasn't in any particular mood to argue and simply let it go.

So I ask you, as the gamer populace, is 1337speak the same thing as textspeak?
Obviously you have run across another teacher who has spent too much time in the ivory tower :)

That's like saying French and Italian are the same because they are both Latin based. Of course, the fact that she did write a paper does automatically make her an expert in the field :)

my suggestion.....write a paper and give it to her, but then, she might not have a sense of humor :)
 

GRoXERs

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No. They are not the same thing.

Text-speak is for people who are too hurried/stupid/bad at English to actually type out full sentences with punctuation and everything.

Leet-speak, on the other hand, is for people who are volunteering to be the first against the wall when the my revolution comes.

Edit: In summary, text-speak earns my disdain. Leet-speak earns my hatred.
Edit2: If you reply to this thread in leet-speak, the bunny will hunt you down and eat you - Nom. Nom. Nom.
 

wewontdie11

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No leetspeak substitutes numbers which are similar in appearance rather than phonemes. Textspeak is mainly aimed at squeezing more characters into a single text message, whereas 1337speak doesn't really have a point.
 

SmilingKitsune

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wewontdie11 said:
No leetspeak substitutes numbers which are similar in appearance rather than phonemes. Textspeak is mainly aimed at squeezing more characters into a single text message, whereas 1337speak doesn't really have a point.
I was half-way through typing out almost the exact same thing when I saw your post above mine, so yeah, this.
 

ManiacalZManiac

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th!s !s 1337. i7 us35 numb3rs @nd sym8ol5 to 5ub5titut3 |t'5 13773r5.

Text speak, usually, just tries to put the least amount of letters/numbers into a message, making it easier for the typer, but difficult for the reader.

Your teacher is WRONG
 

NeutralDrow

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People beat me to the explanation, it seems. Textspeak is shorter, leet, if it changes the length at all, makes things longer.
 

PatientGrasshopper

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I thought they were pretty much the same but I do now see the difference thanks to the above posts.

However what would you call 101? No it is not meant t obe a binary code, would it be a leet form of text speak?
 

Shycte

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No. I rather die then see "1337speak" be considered the same as "Textspeak".

Leet is just stupid.
 

DannyDamage

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Not the same but both need the same thing.

Taking behind the old barn and putting them out of their misery with an axe.
 

Knight Templar

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1337speak needs some effort to get right, but text-talk is all about being lazy. So yeah they are diffrent.
 

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wewontdie11 said:
No leetspeak substitutes numbers which are similar in appearance rather than phonemes. Textspeak is mainly aimed at squeezing more characters into a single text message, whereas 1337speak doesn't really have a point.
It did have a point. (supposedly) it was used to make it more difficult for hackers to be detected.

I'm not sure if it was ever used that much though for that purpose.
 

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black lincon said:
This is a topic that came up a little while ago in my lit class, after taking away someones phone she made a mention of being amazed that our generation had invented their own language which she referred to as 1337speak.

I thought that was slightly funny, I was the biggest gamer in the class and I know as a fact that no one in that class had ever used 1337speak. I told her that there was a difference between 1337speak and textspeak and at best textspeak is a bastardized version of 1337speak. she told me that I was absolutely wrong and that she wrote a paper on the subject in collage making her the expert, I wasn't in any particular mood to argue and simply let it go.

So I ask you, as the gamer populace, is 1337speak the same thing as textspeak?
Well I certainly hope she didn't write a paper in collage, we might have issues. Perhaps college?
13375p33k is considerably harder to understand and...fucking retarded. Textspeak is a reasonable abbreviation. 1337speak is some prick that decided replacing letters with numbers was a fantastic idea.
 

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xanith02100 said:
No, they are not the same. True 1337 uses absolutely none of the letters found in the English alphabet. Textspeak borrows very little from 1337, but mostly is shorthand and abbreviations.

Here is the difference.
ths is txt
7|-||5 |5 1337
Wow... I'm amazed. I didn't know 1337 had advanced that far. I'm sad now.
 

Blaghman

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If we're gonna be discussing this kinda thing, we really need to look at the origins, which goes back long before mobile phones and world of warcraft (yeah, I know, there were tonnes of mmos before WoW, I just don't really care). I think they both started similarly, which was back on bulletin boards, in the time where to access the internet, you needed to plug your computer into your single phone cable, and sit painfully as it downloaded information at 4 bits per second (This is late 70s, or more likely the 80s remember). Because of the slow data rate, people began abbreviating everything they posted, which saved characters, and thus you didn't have to wait so long to get a message (thus we have textspeak). From there I think it was just nerds attempting to prove how awesome they were by utilising 1337 into what they said, so they could talk about forbidden subjects... or something.
 

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GRoXERs said:
If you reply to this thread in leet-speak, the bunny will hunt you down and eat you - Nom. Nom. Nom.
|-|4|-|4 |-|3 15/\/7 53... Ohmigod he was serious, get off, get off!!!