Poll: Anti-Americanism: Does it make sense?

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Since the end of World War II, it's been apparent that the world hates the United States of America because the US is imperialistic and overbearing, because it annihilates local culture and customs with unethical military and economic practices, and because it's drunk on self-righteousness and power.

And you know what? It's true.

But does it make sense to oppose these facets of American foreign policy with simple anti-Americanism? It's easy to say, "It's all America's fault!" but is that really the case?

Here's my viewpoint: every single country in the history of humanity that has found itself with more power than its neighbors has acted just like the United States, ranging from Mesopotamia and the Indus River Valley civilizations to the European empires (with their abysmal human rights records) that immediately preceded the US' current stranglehold on world politics. And how have they acted? With callous indifference to the plight of outsiders for the benefit of their own residents. Every time, without exception.

Why? Because a country looks out for its own, and its own only, always. Stronger nations conquer weaker nations in order to exploit their resources, and then to either assimilate the weaker nation into itself or to indefinitely subject it to servitude. This is a universal feature of international politics which predates politics itself.

Right now the United States occupies the top slot of humanity militarily, economically, and ideologically, thus it is the object of relentless scorn as it blunders along raping the defenseless and shoving aside the guarded. But I submit that blaming the individual country will not cure the trend. Every country, defenseless and guarded, stands ready to stab the United States at the first sign of weakness-but not to end the debacle, but rather to take the US' place as supreme oppressor, because it is each country's view that its people alone deserve to rise above the rest because its people alone possess the knowledge and the rectitude worthy of humanity.

That's the problem, isn't it? People collect into groups and then convince themselves into thinking that their group inherently deserves better treatment and access to resources than any other group. The United States is guilty of that mindset, but so is every other nation-state on this planet. So, is anti-Americanism the ultimate answer? No. As soon as America declines, some other country will take its place and impose its exclusionary policies on a resentful world, and nothing will have changed as it hasn't changed in 6,000 years of recorded history.

Instead of anti-Americanism, a type of pan-humanism would be much better. A recognition that global problems have global causes that include the United States, but also include the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Mozambique, North Korea, Argentina, Lesotho, ad infinitum. Address the exclusionary policies that all countries exhibit which are the root cause of human suffering from conflict. This in no way absolves the United States of responsibility for the current state of humanity, but the main failure of anti-Americanism is that is absolves all others of responsibility, and that is a fatal presumption.

Why do you guys think? Is anti-Americanism useful? How?
 

EzraPound

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Anti-Americanism isn't useful because, insofar as I've seen the term applied, it refers to a dislike of the United States which negates legitimate discourse over the country's positive and negative attributes.
 

SeleneRose

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Its useful, a valid criticism of the military industrial complex can be made from it
right now, its useless, because its just 'America is the root of all evil wharrgrabl capitalism is evil!'
Its just dumping all the hate on one country
And since america has the most power in th world, its the logical thing to hate
That same old -fuck the man- mentality
 

Zac_Dai

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Its useless in the fact that in reality it really has nowhere near the power people think it does.
 

Arcticflame

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Depends what you mean by anti-americanism.

It's too broad a term to say yes or no.

Right now the United States occupies the top slot of humanity militarily, economically, and ideologically
Eh?
 

Mollecht

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"Useful" might the wrong term to use. Anti-americanism can be useful in the same way as "socialism" or "anarchism" or "conservatism" can, which is not at all: an ideology is not useful, it cannot be used practically for anything. It can be a legitimate and well-founded belief, but useful? No way.
 

Sewblon

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I agree with how if it wasn't America invading countries that can't put up a fight, and blundering on a mass scale, it would be someone else, but I think that we can't do anything to change it. The people of earth are not interested in uniting, but the people of The United States, The Peoples Republic of China, The United Kingdom, Germany Japan and Zimbabwe are interested in uniting, and that is why national governments are the most powerful entities in world.
 

Hedberger

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The fact that everyone else does it doesn't justify it. I'd still dislke it even if it was Sweden that started to act as a worldpolice. I'd like to think that civilization has progressed so much that we don't need to threathen with violence to get the resources we need. It's like beating up a storeowner just because someone else reserved the game you were about to buy. Invasion to get resources is never justified whether they are the mightiest country in the world or not.

Also George W. Bush sold out the american economy to the chinese to afford the war on terror so they aren't on top of the economy either.

Edit: Just to clarify my view. Yes, it does make sense to dislike american foreign policies.
 

Harry Bosch

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If what you say is true about the world hating on the most successful country then America won?t have to worry for long if the economy keeps going this way.

Oh and your examples of historical civilisations dosent holds much water, just because something happened in the past doesn?t mean it should be repeated now.
 

IceStar100

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It a contry that from what I seen living in it. It people hate the way it does things but are afraid to fight it. We know the big componies run everything. We know the middle class is getting it every way the goverment can give it. It's just not yet to the breaking point. So yeah it useless hating it. Do something about it or shut the hell up. Hating it changes nothing.

That all said I'm hope I live to see China become the new super power. They can have all the headache that come with it.
 

munkyforce

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I think it is worthwhile criticizing US foreign policy, simply because debate helps us see flaws and hopefully avoid making the same mistakes again. In terms of the US and its role as global hegemon, at least ideologically the US is pro-democracy, capitalism and liberty. I am well aware that this is often simply rhetorical, but lip service is better than nothing.
 

Trivun

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I'm not anti-American, I'm just anti-stupidity and anti-Republican. Americans are fine in general, but those two really get on my nerves (and as seen with the last government they often go hand in hand anway, not a dig at any Republicans here, but that's simply how I feel. Mainly about Bush and Cheney.).
 

LockHeart

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I can see why people would be anti-whatever American policy/ideology, but simply saying 'I hate America' while giving no real reasons doesn't really make them seem like the most rational people in the world o_O
 

sonidraw

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Hedberger said:
I'd like to think that civilization has progressed so much that we don't need to threathen with violence to get the resources we need.
What civilization? Humanity across the world still has slavery, ethnic cleansing, large-scale starvation, and mass exploitation of resources and people. If this is civilization, then we've been civilized since before we evolved into homo sapiens. People all over the world still use violence to get what they want. Talking won't get them to stop.
 

IronManMan

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I wouldn't say that it's as useful as people would hope, but I certainly understand why it's so wide spread. You can't, as a country, run around the globe, tell everyone that disagrees with you that they're wrong just because they disagree, and forcibly push your own beliefs and values on other countries without resentment growing against you. Americans should also really stop being surprised when these sentiments are directed towards them. Sure it's the government that makes the decisions and policies that result in all this, but they are elected officials. Take some damn responsibility for the morons that are ELECTED into office to be your domestic and international reprsentatives. *shrugs*. That said, am I Anti-American? No. Lived there for two years, dated an American, some family there, etc etc.
 

Donbett1974

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Trivun said:
I'm not anti-American, I'm just anti-stupidity and anti-Republican. Americans are fine in general, but those two really get on my nerves (and as seen with the last government they often go hand in hand anway, not a dig at any Republicans here, but that's simply how I feel. Mainly about Bush and Cheney.).
Really you can't boil a party down to a few individual. Both parties have people that give them shame. Both lost what made them great.Both have flaws in their philosophy. Both are willing to hurt America so they can win. To think one is better than another show you are one sided or naive.
 

DoW Lowen

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Well I'll say this, America is the modern day equivalent of Rome. In fact much of their history parallel each other. And we all know how that story turned out.