Poll: Are games actuly getting beter?

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Recently I made a list of my top ten games and and bottom ten games. In doing so I realized that that the first 5 consisted of two current gen titles, a PS2 game and two PSX games. and that got me to thinking...

As Video game history becomes deeper and more varied we have to ask ourselves are games actually getting better? The typical demographic for gamers is around 20-25, and as I am part of this demographic I'm curious what younger and older gamers think. On one hand we have Portal, and on the other we have Knights 2.

What do you think, are games actually becoming more interesting? or are games becoming more and more bland and homogeneous?If you'd like, I'd also like to know what your top 5 and bottom 5 are and your age. Mine where...

-Top
Chrono Cross
Portal
Silent Hill 2
Mass Effect
Final Fantasy VII

-Bottom
Eve of Extinction
Tomb raider series
Mario Party 8
Final Fantasy X-2
Knights 2
 

Shapsters

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Aren't games supposed to be getting better? Sure, we may not have classics like Super Mario nowadays, but the games should be better.

On a side note, your spelling certainly is not better.
 

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Shapsters said:
On a side note, your spelling certainly is not better.
Sorry for the spelling, I'm Dyslexic. Also, I agree. I'm just wondering what other gamers think.
 

Outcast107

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Games have been getting better. Some are sucky, but there are diamonds in the mist of these crappy games. Though I would assume its what you like to play. A shooter probably won't like a RPG(Not saying a shooter wouldn't, but im just giving a Example) So it all depends on what you like.
 

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It's easy to assume games were better in the old days because you only remember the good ones. Games then had just as many crappy games as today, and there are still plenty of good games coming out today.
 

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Outcast107 said:
Games have been getting better. Some are sucky, but there are diamonds in the mist of these crappy games. Though I would assume its what you like to play. A shooter probably won't like a RPG(Not saying a shooter wouldn't, but im just giving a Example) So it all depends on what you like.
sgtshock said:
It's easy to assume games were better in the old days because you only remember the good ones. Games then had just as many crappy games as today, and there are still plenty of good games coming out today.
I agree make no mistake. I'm just wondering what other gamers think, mostly gamers outsider my age demographic.
Banok said:
yep. crysis, nuff said.
Actually, I thought Crysis was rather bland, BEAUTIFUL, but not all that unique.
 

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We still have great games coming out. But its like sgtshock said, there were God awful games coming out in the olden days, but we don't think about them anymore. Well, except for ET.
 

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Hmm... I voted yes, because I believe in progress.

Alright, my top five(out of just what I own) would have to be...

Final Fantasy IX
Mass Effect
Any .hack// game
Knights of the Old Republic 1&2
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

though its really a painful and difficult process naming these, and I only included games I physically own. If I could include emulated games, i'd have Earthbound and Final Fantasy VI on that list somewhere.(I dont really advocate piracy, but those games are freaking hard to find now.)

And in the Bottom five...(out of just what I own)

Gran Tourismo 4
Fourza Motorsport
Suikoden III(oddly, I love the others.)
Croc
Terminator (I forget the whole name)

I guess there will always be a spot for the classics, and many times they are timeless, still really fun no matter how much time passes. Many new games are chopped down by rediculous standards, but... sometimes they just suck... I dunno, but atleast I think gaming is moving in the right direction about 70% of the time.
 

ArmoredSandwich

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Try playing RTS (computer), EA continues to throw C&C games, and before they screw their original product over with horrible patches they have the next franchise to ruin.

No it's not getting better in comparison to what I was used to, too much mainstream for my opinion, but then again perhaps it has me who changed.


On the other hand there were some games I quite enjoyed, very mainstream games that I just play to relax or to enjoy the graphics, but competitive, nah that's over for me.
 

Claidheamh_Righ

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Companies like EA are takign over small companies and pushing for faster releases and stuff to make money, not to make quality games. Most games today are shinier rather than actaul better gameplay.
 

Wertbag

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The gaming market is a lot bigger now, theres more of everything produced and that goes for garbage too. But the technology is creating games now which would have been impossible a few years back. Oblivion, Fallout 3, Stalker, Farcry 2 etc. Games can have brilliant graphics and don't necassarily have to be short or lacking in story.
Even games with no story like sports games are massive improvements over the past. Better graphics, better commentary, better physics. Sure the changes between Fifa 07-08 might seem minor, but Fifa 98 to 08 would be massive.
 

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They are, but our top ten lists will be filled with old games due to nostalgia. The new games are better, but our eyes are blinded by nostalgia, so we have trouble seeing it. My favorite game of all time is Link to the Past, but if a new gamer played that and my #2, Portal, they would probably say Portal is better.
 
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Games are getting better, but in my personal opinion, I have more fun with 16 bit rpg games than I do with a lot of games now, but that is just my taste.

I only like old RPGs more because they work well. You can't make a game with stunning 3D graphics and have combat similar to the original Final Fantasy. (I'm looking at you modern JPRGs)

FPS games have gotten way better over the years though. There is a truckload of them, but some are really good. Nobody can say that Doom is the best FPS ever.

That turned out to be longer than I thought, anyway, to cut it short, yes, most genres of games are getting better, with the exception of a few RPGs. (Specifically Japanese ones.)
 

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balimuzz said:
They are, but our top ten lists will be filled with old games due to nostalgia. The new games are better, but our eyes are blinded by nostalgia, so we have trouble seeing it. My favorite game of all time is Link to the Past, but if a new gamer played that and my #2, Portal, they would probably say Portal is better.
Actually I'll be happy to admit that link to the past wasn't as good as portal. I dare someone to say with a strait face that Final Fantasy X had a better story than VII, and if not for story, why would you play a Jrpg?
 

MausGMR

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I would personally argue that games arent getting better, but more popular. A decade ago, there was an incredible amount of variation in titles across the board. Development cost lest money and the genres were less clearly established. Companies were willing to take alot more risks, and put out varied and quirky games that aimed to satisfy certain peoples inner geek, titles such as monkey island and Elite are good examples of this.

Now however, as gaming has become much more popular and mainstream than it once was, we find ourselves recieving increasing numbers of 'safe' titles. Sequels to popular franchises, generic space marine vs aliens / contempory modern day fps's. Most of the mainstream consoles are pushing mainstream games, and we find little innovation in such platforms anymore. Whilst nintendo seem to be able to push alot of innovative idea's and games across the market, especially with the DS, we find microsoft and sony adopting a very safe aproach when it comes to what they are releasing on their platforms.

Then we have to look at these mainstream games, and question if they are infact better than the same kind of games we used to play 5+ years ago. Now I understand the arguement of nostalgia clouding our judgement to some degree, but take away the increases in graphics in alot of games, and ask yourself if the changes in the way the game runs in comparison to previous versions or similar products are improvements, or downgrades. Are storys better than they used to be? Is the multiplayer more challenging and more demanding than it used to be, lengthening the experience and increasing the enjoyment. I'd argue no. Its a well known fact Epic toned down unreal tournament 3 because new players to the 2k series were dying too easily and thus putting the game down without actually trying to get good at it.

Alot of games are easy to pick up and play currently. Now I dont specifically see this as a problem, but it would be nice to find that some new games took the approach of wanting to be challenging, rather than easy to pickup and moderately easy to master. Its a clear known fact that FPS's have slown down, with the drop in popularity in games like Quake and UT, and their lack of compatibility with the consoles. Thank god for quake live.

RTS's are still finding their feet in the maintstream market, but I do believe, as someone said earlier, were going to see more and more console friendly CnC clones pumped out on the consoles, and as soon as someone nails the RTS formula down properly, probably lots of repetitive garbage. Its definately got that way with FPS's, and has been for some time.

As the gaming industry continues to grow, I expect we are going to find ourselves with alot of games we are content with, but not impressed with. Its only the rare gems of the year such as games like portal that are ever really going to stand out in any experienced gamers memory. Let us hope that as time goes on, the majority of new gamers will realise that the same types of games really are being made over and over, and that it is time for something a little more developed and innovative to come along. We have boundaries for a reason, so we can push them. Would I want Coca Cola to rerelease Cola every year with some flashy new packaging and a new name? No I wouldnt, So why should we view this practice as acceptable with our games?