Poll: are the catholics outdated?

[bfgmetalhead]

I have watched the catholic religion closely, and ever since pope benedicit took over the papacy the church has fallen into middle age idea's again.I can't help but feel disgust at the blatant homophobia and anti-family planning which is slightly out of date in the 21st century.

I think it's time the world took a stand and made these 'men of god' realise they have no place of power in todays society (it does'nt help that the catholic church is possibly the most corrupt in the world).How many more deaths and horror's will be carried out in the name of 'god' by the major churches of the world?

So I still think catholics should be able to exist, but the pope should be taken down and left forever, as most catholics I know don't like him either.And possibly following that, the church of islam would follow as allthough most muslims are not bad people the values the religion teaches are out of date in a modern world.

so what do you fellow escapists think?

p.s this is not a hate tread so please respect others views and opinions thanx

 

[Valagetti]

It does strike me as a past catholic that I used to follow something thats 2000 years old rather arbitary. Those parables are used to relate to the audience. Its difficult to do that now.

 

[nuba km]

well seeing as the new and old testament destroy each others teachings I find it hard to believe in and Christian religion and seeing as the old testament is full of enough plot holes to please every man in the world I find I hard to follow any religion past of it. also don't get me started on the pope I feel this would end up far from civil.

 

[Valate_v1legacy]

Aye; Catholicism was bad for Humanity. It was outdated some 1500 years ago. That's just me. Christianity is fine in my opinion, but the papacy is not.

 

[Steam Colossus]

I'm not going to say catholicism is wrong or that their beliefs are not true, all I'm going to say is that they need to get with the times and stick to what their good book says.



(My captcha was somailia infliction... cool band name.)

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

I don't know... Do all abrahamic religions exist only as means of legitimizing oppression and consumption of planetary resources to increase the wealth and power of various elite/royal classes the world over?

Do they exist almost entirely to:
1. Legititmize primarily male dominator hierarchies and systematic oppression
2. Promote the idea of anthropocentrism, the belief that humans are superior to all other lifeforms, and that human will always supercedes the will of any other organism, or even that other organisms have no will of their own.
3. To make the masses believe that their lives on Earth are a test or judgement and that the only consequences that matter are ones concerning their afterlives, so that they don't question the domination that keeps them as ad hoc slaves.
4. To promote imperial expansion in order to allow the wealthy elites to retain and increase their wealth, in the name of converting heathens and/or civilizing savages.

 

[joebthegreat]

Maybe, but I lick the pope

 

[Czargent Sane]

I have watched the catholic religion closely, and ever since pope benedicit took over the papacy the church has fallen into middle age idea's again.I can't help but feel disgust at the blatant homophobia and anti-family planning which is slightly out of date in the 21st century.

I think it's time the world took a stand and made these 'men of god' realise they have no place of power in todays society (it does'nt help that the catholic church is possibly the most corrupt in the world).How many more deaths and horror's will be carried out in the name of 'god' by the major churches of the world?

So I still think catholics should be able to exist, but the pope should be taken down and left forever, as most catholics I know don't like him either.And possibly following that, the church of islam would follow as allthough most muslims are not bad people the values the religion teaches are out of date in a modertn world.

so what do you fellow escapists think?

p.s this is not a hate tread so please respect others views and opinions thanx

"the pope should be taken down and left forever" by what mechanism would you uproot a position ingrained in a culture for two millennia?

how many recent deaths has the church carried out?

middle ages? really? thats why the church is burning people alive, having them tortured, and demanding we go to war with the muslims.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

All religions taht started thousands of years ago are going to be outdated, but I agree that the Pope is a dick, also this belongs in Religion/Polotics.

 

[Colour Scientist]

The Pope is the figurehead of the Catholic church. He is part of Catholicism. I'm not a Catholic but I don't see why you would concern yourself with the Pope if he has 'no place of power in todays society'. Essentially he's just a harmless old man. I can't remember the last time the Pope carried out a major horror personally.
He is one of the major components of the Catholic faith that separate it from other Christian categories. Catholic's don't take Benedict's word as law and almost everything he says is taken with a pinch of salt but his decrees only apply to Catholics. If you aren't one then I don't understand why his presence bothers you so much.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

I don't know... Do all abrahamic religions exist only as means of legitimizing oppression and consumption of planetary resources to increase the wealth and power of various elite/royal classes the world over?

Do they exist almost entirely to:
1. Legititmize primarily male dominator hierarchies and systematic oppression
2. Promote the idea of anthropocentrism, the belief that humans are superior to all other lifeforms, and that human will always supercedes the will of any other organism, or even that other organisms have no will of their own.
3. To make the masses believe that their lives on Earth are a test or judgement and that the only consequences that matter are ones concerning their afterlives, so that they don't question the domination that keeps them as ad hoc slaves.
4. To promote imperial expansion in order to allow the wealthy elites to retain and increase their wealth, in the name of converting heathens and/or civilizing savages.

Oh my, no offense but you're just a little bit of crazy away from conspiracy theorist, also Humans are superior to all other life forms that we know of, thats why people have zoos.

 

[Eternal_Lament]

Well had they remained true to their origins and keep the rabbits as the pope, perhaps the church would be up to date by now.

OT: speaking as a very moderate Catholic, I do agree that there are parts that are out-dated. That said, if there are several Catholics that don't even listen to the pope anymore, then that in itself somewhat takes away his power, since his commands can only really take hold if his congregation follows, a congregation that appears to be decreasing. Also, reason why this is in off-topic as oppossed to religion/politics?

 

[bfgmetalhead]

troll is trolling

I dislike the pope as he mabey not be powerful no but he is a figurehead

and religions that go to war in the past or present don't deserve respect

edit:this is my reply to faggoto

 

[rokkolpo]

Not really, since the world is obviously just 5-6000 years old :S

Jokes aside, yes.
Who the hell wants a spiritual leader anyway?
Why the fuck does he stand closer to a supposed god anyway?

Sense! Where is it?!

 

[messy]

The fact that they only just now allowed, in some cases, the use of condoms to prevent the spread of a disease that was killing and infection millions of people in Africa I'm willing to call them out dated.

What place of power do you think they're taking? Because the only one I see them taking is one in which people voluntarily choose to listen to them and if you're going to stop that you're just being a tyrant. Nor do I see why you're trying to attribute deaths to them right here and now.

OK but once it's a given that people are going to listen, and places in Africa they are going to listen, then you have certain responsibility when you start sending them messages. And if these are messages that put human lives at danger at the cost of possible lives (and if each was truly a possible life then sex is basically mass murder.) Since a condom only kills that extra one sperm really, and out of several million sperm that's essentially nothing.

And out dated is a perfectly good reason to be against something, the medical system of the "four humours" in the body is outdated massive but we don't cure people by drugs and medicine just for the novelty of it. Because by definition something outdated, if it truly is outdated, is no longer relevant to our time so why the hell should we care about it?

 

[Lilani]

I am a practicing Methodist, but I have a roommate who is a practicing Catholic. I'm a bit split, really. The Catholic crowd she hangs out with is both traditional and "modern," I guess you could say. Before every meal she will fold her hands and recite a prayer aloud. However, she is also a member of the campus Democrat Student Group. She believes in the right to abortion, thinks that marijuana should be legalized, but also thinks that the whole "Red VS Blue" bullcrap going on in congress is for the birds.

The main problems I have with Catholicism concern the papacy, not the individual Catholics like my roommate. The facts that they still don't let women get too high into church rankings and do not condone condoms in any situation never fail to astonish me. I also feel that a lot of their "faith" in God and their "love" for him is lost in all of the pomp and circumstance that goes on every service. Jesus never needed incense or relics to talk about God, and he scolded the pharisees for how richly they treated themselves and how detached they were from the world, and thus from God.

And then there's the popemobile. I think this demotivational sums that thing up quite nicely.

I understand that a good portion of charity and human rights are run by the Catholic church, and I applaud them for being able to put all of that crap aside to represent what they are supposed to be about. However, I think if the Catholic church started caring more about dealing with the world as it is now rather than blindly following their traditions they could do so much more. It's just tragic how much they are holding themselves back.

 

[zehydra]

there's no such thing as outdated philosophies.