Poll: Are Videogames Art?
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Because "anything can be art" seems silly to me, I limit my definition of art to traditional paintings and sculptures. I'm not saying other things can't have meaning or anything, just I don't think those things aren't specifically "art".
There's also a difference between "are" and "can be". Sure games like BioShock and Mass Effect can be all deep and have messages an' all.
But Mortal Kombat's also a game.
There's also a difference between "are" and "can be". Sure games like BioShock and Mass Effect can be all deep and have messages an' all.
But Mortal Kombat's also a game.
Art has no definitive definition, But I personally like to say that is is a persons self expression though a medium, to portray a message, inspire audiences, alter perceptions and/ or en-kindle spirits. That is clearly not a definitive definition, nor can you ever come close to a definitive definition, art is a metaphysical entity devoid of democratic referendum, or an utilitarian ideals, is is just a pure metaphysical vision converted into a physical medium.Zhukov said:
What do you consider to be art to be? In what way does video games not fulfill that perception?linwolf said:
creationis apostate said:
If it's interactive it isn't art. If it's made with entertainment in mind it isn't art. Does are two of my definition of what isn't art (something that is a lot easier that what is art) that games can't live up to.Adrian Neyland said:
Yes, but there are films that portray equally mindless violence as mortal kombat, even more. But you don't lump all film under those examples. As for only traditional art being the only form of art, that is absolute rubbish. There are examples of different kinds of art, film, literature, music, photography, other forms of multimedia and countless other examples.FreelanceButler said:
If it's interactive it isn't art. If it's made with entertainment in mind it isn't art. Does are two of my definition of what isn't art (something that is a lot easier that what is art) that games can't live up to.[/quote]linwolf said:
Why cant art be made with entertainment in mind, if art cannot be enjoyed what is the point, most film is made with entertainment in mind, but you wouldn't deny film to be art.linwolf said:
The majority aren't but every now and again a game does become an art because of its brilliance. most games really cannot be called art because they are fundamentally identical and copies of each other with a slight tweak.
I think video games are VERY MUCH art. Entertainment of any kind can be condered an art. IT invovles taking something and through a long process creating a peice of work you envisioned in order to share it with other people. You are creating this beautiful thing as you saw fit and to appeal to people and it is a peice of art to be catered to and improved upon.
Adrian Neyland said:
I don't consider film to be art, I don't consider books to be art. Art for me are made to give a inside into what the mind of the artist if it's made with entertainment as a main thing then that can never be archived. And if it's interactive it's more about you and the same problem happens.creationis apostate said:
So music can never be art, because if it´s not made with entertainment in mind, it´s meant to make some sort of statement or convey emotions which requires interpretation, which I´d call interactive.linwolf said:
The same goes for paintings, because without interpretation their only purpose is to look pretty.
As for the topic itself, obviously not all games are art, I´m not even sure if there are any that are art, but I do think that video games can be art. I have to admit that I don´t really care if they´re labeled art or not, though.