Poll: Clementine vs Ellie

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Sack of Cheese

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Which one do you prefer? Clementine from the Walking Dead or Ellie from the Last of us?

Personally, I love Clementine more. She looks adorable and is such a sweetie. Her voice actress did an amazing job to make her even cuter. Short bonding scenes from Walking dead such as putting band-aid on her finger or helping her with her hair, asking how she feels... those tremendously helped her character.

I like Ellie too. She is bitey and a refreshing change from the usual "innocent kid" trope, but the game was relentless with little bonding scenes, hence I didn't feel very attached to her as opposed to Clementine. I still enjoyed Winter act though, my favourite bit of the game.
 

Zhukov

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I reckon Clem carries it on sheer cuteness.

Ellie was awesome too though.

Despite them both being female kids being escorted through zombie apocalypses, it's kind of an apples-or-oranges question.
 

Zenn3k

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I grew to care about Clementine as a child with a good heart who I felt needed protection.

I grew to care about Ellie as a companion, a loyal friend, not just as a helpless girl. I felt emotion for Ellie's character in a more powerful way than I did for Clem.

The choice for me is easy, Ellie all the way.
 

IllumInaTIma

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I love them both. Both Clem and Ellie are shining examples of just how to write child characters.

However, I'd have to go with Ellie. I just find snappy and energetic characters more endearing. Maybe that's why Chie, Arya and Ellie are my favorite female characters of all time.
 
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Bare in mind, Clem is a good 5 years younger than Ellie, and she didn't grow up in the apocalypse like Ellie did.

Clem is a charming and sweet little girl, while Ellie is also charming in her own way, but also very capable for her age.

I feel like Ellie is the girl that Clementine would grow up to be.
 

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I feel like they are far too separate of genres to compare the two.
I'd like to say that Clementine is still my favorite. Ellie is far too different than her, though they are both strong leading/supporting characters.
I can dig them both, but I don't think that you can compare the two.
 

DarkhoIlow

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I only watched a let's play of TLOU so I can't really speak on Ellie's behalf.

Clementine however I was very attached too and all my decisions in TWD game were only to benefit her above anyone else because I felt the need that I had to protect her no matter what.
 

Mikeyfell

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I'm picking Ellie. Reluctantly.

They're close, But Ellie is the best written character I can think of, and amazingly well acted.
(Not to down play Clementine's writing and acting. It's hard to act as a character that young. But this is one of those cases where the actual quality once all is said and done was the deciding factor.)


Where Clem creams Ellie is in game play benefit.
In gameplay Ellie was one of my biggest complaint (Well, second biggest) complaint with Last of Us.
Ellie was invisible, no enemy ever acknowledged her presence and every time that happened my immersion and sense of quality of the game died a little.


That's the only reason it's so close. I almost let a programing oversight paint my opinion of a character. Almost, I'm glad I'm still more of a story snob than a gameplay snob.
 

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i am the only one who thinks clems voice acting was rubbish, listen to a few lines of her and she sounds the same, she doesn't show much emotion. i think people got swept away by the very one dimensional relationship with lee. ellie and joels relationship is much more realistic and complicated. also because the last of us has vastly Superior animations her character has much more nuance. i really hope telltale improve their animations for season 2 because what they have got just wont cut it.
 

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Clementine was a very good child character, but a lot of the time I thought they were laying on the cuteness a little bit thick. At least she wasn't as annoying as most children in fiction. Ellie on the other hand is competent, tough, and is surprisingly helpful in a scrap. Not five minutes ago I had her jump on a bat-wielding thug and slit his throat while Joel was busy coughing up his pulverised kidneys on the floor. And yet, despite this toughness, Ellie is still pretty cute, and has a lot of moments where her amazement or interest in some piece of lost modern culture makes her a more believable and even more endearing child than Clementine.

In short, Ellie wins by a wide margin for me.

Mikeyfell said:
Where Clem creams Ellie is in game play benefit.
In gameplay Ellie was one of my biggest complaint (Well, second biggest) complaint with Last of Us.
Ellie was invisible, no enemy ever acknowledged her presence and every time that happened my immersion and sense of quality of the game died a little.
I saw Ellie get slaughtered in a failed mission just before I turned off for the evening. She's not completely immune to harm.
 

Zenn3k

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Mikeyfell said:
I'm picking Ellie. Reluctantly.

They're close, But Ellie is the best written character I can think of, and amazingly well acted.
(Not to down play Clementine's writing and acting. It's hard to act as a character that young. But this is one of those cases where the actual quality once all is said and done was the deciding factor.)


Where Clem creams Ellie is in game play benefit.
In gameplay Ellie was one of my biggest complaint (Well, second biggest) complaint with Last of Us.
Ellie was invisible, no enemy ever acknowledged her presence and every time that happened my immersion and sense of quality of the game died a little.


That's the only reason it's so close. I almost let a programing oversight paint my opinion of a character. Almost, I'm glad I'm still more of a story snob than a gameplay snob.
She had to be invisible or she would have broken your cover CONSTANTLY, which would have ruined the entire game.

Ellie DOES help in combat though, throwing bricks and things. Clem never helps from a gameplay perspective, EVER.
 

Mikeyfell

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Zenn3k said:
Mikeyfell said:
I'm picking Ellie. Reluctantly.

They're close, But Ellie is the best written character I can think of, and amazingly well acted.
(Not to down play Clementine's writing and acting. It's hard to act as a character that young. But this is one of those cases where the actual quality once all is said and done was the deciding factor.)


Where Clem creams Ellie is in game play benefit.
In gameplay Ellie was one of my biggest complaint (Well, second biggest) complaint with Last of Us.
Ellie was invisible, no enemy ever acknowledged her presence and every time that happened my immersion and sense of quality of the game died a little.


That's the only reason it's so close. I almost let a programing oversight paint my opinion of a character. Almost, I'm glad I'm still more of a story snob than a gameplay snob.
She had to be invisible or she would have broken your cover CONSTANTLY, which would have ruined the entire game.

Ellie DOES help in combat though, throwing bricks and things. Clem never helps from a gameplay perspective, EVER.
Naughty Dog could have programed Ellie in a way where she never stands in an enemies field of view (Or at least not while she's also in your field of view)

Irrational did it with Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite, there's no reason Naughty Dog couldn't have done it for Ellie.

I never said Ellie doesn't help you out in combat.
But most of the combat in Last of Us is stealth based (At least that's how I played it) and at least once per encounter Ellie standing right out in the open in full view of an enemy totally killed my immersion. (And in Last of Us 90% of that games appeal is in the atmosphere, so anything that breaks immersion is a mortal sin)

Clem actually helped quite a bit. Giving you a hammer to defend your self in Ep1. Crawling through the vent to open the door in Ep2. Saving Molly's life in Ep4. Saving Lee's Life in Ep5 (Depending on if you messed up the QTE) to name a few.
Most importantly though Clem never broke my immersion. Which is what made it so hard to pick between them.

They're both amazing characters, Ellie just wins by a hair.
 

Woodsey

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I thought Clementine was kind of irritating. The voice actress isn't bad per se, but it still sat at the back of my mind that I was listening to a 30-something-year-old woman do an impression of a 6-year-old. For 12 hours.

Ellie was an entirely believable teenage girl however, taking into account the fact that was born post-apocalypse. The relationship was also more nuanced, what with her being both a daughter-surrogate and a (non-sexual, obviously) companion-surrogate, taking over from Tess. Once they got over the cliche-hump of "You don't need a gun! Oh OK, you do," that worked quite nicely.

Zenn3k said:
Ellie DOES help in combat though, throwing bricks and things. Clem never helps from a gameplay perspective, EVER.
What gameplay is there for her to help in?
 

SushiJaguar

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Considering Clementine didn't spend a large portion of The Walking Dead being an unlikeable kleptomaniac that I'd like to slap upside the head, compared to Ellie who did, I think I like Clem better. Not to mention, y'know, Clem shoots zombies in the face after like one lesson. Kid's a natural with a piece. Ellie's got what? Cloaking technology and bricks. Yes, that's another point in favour of Clementine. She never broke my immersion by scuttling around like a crab making god-awful amounts of noise while creatures sensitive to sound stagger about, looking to eat my jugular. Nor did she repeatedly break away from cover and walk through bullets and patches of molotov-induced fire to press her face into my armpits, like Ellie did.

Simply put, Ellie could never be as good a character because she's presented around the game, instead of the other way around. Plus, like I said, she's a whoa-oh edgyyyy kid of the apocalypse so she's fifty times worse than all those douchey pre-teens who wear faux-diamond studded trucker caps and cuss anything that moves.

I mean, let's assume she was raised with or by the Firefly chick that pawns Ellie off onto you. That woman was nice! As nice as you get while blackmailing the only two competent people in the wasteland. Where the hell could Ellie have learned to be such a colossal snarklord?

On the other hand, it's hard to compare the most crucial aspect of both characters: how they react to the apocalypse. It's all Ellie's ever known, so she really has no idea what she's missing beyond the logical mindset of; "Yeah I bet it was pretty sweet when you didn't have to creep around psycho fungi-dudes all the time." So yeah, the way she is fascinated by "old-world" technology and culture is kind of cool, and well-done...but at the same time the cynic in me just sees it as Naughty Dog getting in their shots at taking the piss out of pop culture. Not to say I don't agree with Ellie's little aside about supermodels being stupid for not eating and being so skinny, but really? That's a social comment you'd like to raise in a game about an apocalypse?

As for Clem, she comes right out of a normal life into a living hell. She suffers more, goes through more, and ultimately comes off as the stronger character, quite literally. She's younger than Ellie and never had to toughen up and learn so fast, but she steps right up to the plate and within three months of everything going to shit, she wades through the zombie hordes out of Savannah on her own! Right after her father-figure dies in front of her! In my opinion, she's made of far sterner stuff and is a more interesting character than Ellie.
 

The Funslinger

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I've only been able to play the first episode of Walking Dead, and I don't have a PS3 and as such can't play Last of Us.

But I prefer Ellie purely because of this:

 

lacktheknack

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Awwww, no love for Amy?

I haven't played either, but from footage, Clementine is just SO CUTE.
 

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Binnsyboy said:
I've only been able to play the first episode of Walking Dead, and I don't have a PS3 and as such can't play Last of Us.

But I prefer Ellie purely because of this:

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I always manage to look at this for rough five seconds before bursting into hysterical laughter. It is literally the funniest thing I've seen all week and I don't understand why.

As for which character I prefer? I choose to abstain from this vote.