Poll: Do you believe in global warming?

[chinangel]

Do you believe in global warming? I'm just asking because there is a wide variety of opinion out there and there are people a lot more educated than I am who have both claimed either side of this raging debate.

So...here we go, discuss!

 

[Strazdas]

Thats like asking do you believe in gravity. Global warming is a fact, and while you can pretend it is not real, you wont float away. The actual discussion is whether it is man-made or natural.

 

[MeisterKleister]

Yes, I believe that global warming is real and that human activities are the primary cause, because as I understand it, that's what the evidence so far points to.

Global warming is the rise in the average temperature of Earth's atmosphere and oceans since the late 19th century and its projected continuation. Since the early 20th century, Earth's mean surface temperature has increased by about 0.8 °C (1.4 °F), with about two-thirds of the increase occurring since 1980.[2]

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and scientists are more than 90% certain that it is primarily caused by increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases produced by human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation.[3][4][5][6] These findings are recognized by the national science academies of all major industrialized nations.[7][A]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Educational Youtube channels I recommend on the subject:
potholer54 - Playlist: Climate change explained, and the myths debunked [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP]
greenman3610 [http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610/videos]

Besides the English Wikipedia article on the subject, I personally would also recommend reading the FAQ on its Talk page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_warming/FAQ

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Anyone who doesn't believe in global warming is an idiot, since the a change in the earth's temperature is a measurable and indisputable fact. The question shouldn't however be whether or not you believe in global warming, but whether global warming is caused by humans, or whether it's a natural phenomenon.

 

[Dragonbums]

Anyone who doesn't believe in global warming is an idiot, since the a change in the earth's temperature is a measurable and indisputable fact. The question shouldn't however be whether or not you believe in global warming, but whether global warming is caused by humans, or whether it's a natural phenomenon.

Global Warming in the basic sense that the temperature of Earth is globally warming is a natural occurrence.
I'm fairly certain at some point long before the Ice Age, Earth had a global temperature higher than this.

What isn't natural though is how fast it's going. Which is why it's causing so many problems. Animals aside from a select few can't adapt that fast and thus are on a fast track to extinction.

 

[Hoplon]

I don't believe in it but the good thing about evidence based science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.

I do think it's true though.

 

[piinyouri]

No, but I do believe in climate change, whether it be natural and artificial.

 

[Esotera]

Global warming is absolutely happening and there is no dispute that the earth is on average getting warmer. The only argument is whether it is due to natural causes or man, and the vast majority of scientists believe it is due to artificial activity.

Even if global warming was false, we're facing a pretty serious fuel crisis in 50 years once the shale gas runs out. The best time to transition to a renewable economy is when energy is cheap and it doesn't cost a lot to make solar panels, wind turbines, etc. The benefits of energy independence alone are enough to change our lifestyle, even if we don't believe in anthropogenic climate change.

 

[Strazdas]

Besides the English Wikipedia article on the subject, I personally would also recommend reading the FAQ on its Talk page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_warming/FAQ

I didnt even think about looking at the FAQ part, thanks for a nice read, even though i knew quite a lot of it. definatelly recommeded.

I don't believe in it but the good thing about evidence based science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.

I do think it's true though.

So you know there is a good amount of evidence and still think it is false? are you ignorant on purpose?

No, but I do believe in climate change, whether it be natural and artificial.

but global warming IS climate change. it is not all possible forms of climate change, but one of the forms. that is, warming.

 

[Thaluikhain]

but global warming IS climate change. it is not all possible forms of climate change, but one of the forms. that is, warming.

Um...yes. In the same way that cars built by dragons are a particular type of car, it's perfectly possible to believe in cars, but not cars built by dragons.

cap: Dragon with matches

huh

 

[ShipofFools]

Cause and effect, man.
Humans put a shit ton of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, planet's climate gets fucked.

The only people who can't put two and two together are either making way too much money off this shit or are buying into idiot rhetoric.

 

[Strazdas]

but global warming IS climate change. it is not all possible forms of climate change, but one of the forms. that is, warming.

Um...yes. In the same way that cars built by dragons are a particular type of car, it's perfectly possible to believe in cars, but not cars built by dragons.

cap: Dragon with matches

huh

so then you believe climate can change, but it cannot get warmer? because thats not a particular type odf change you can thing of. Quite a strange position.

 

[Hoplon]

I don't believe in it but the good thing about evidence based science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.

I do think it's true though.

So you know there is a good amount of evidence and still think it is false? are you ignorant on purpose?

Um, wut? no, I just try to not hold things as beliefs since that means when they change (they always changes, we know imperfectly at best) It's not a belief i have to change. Changing beliefs is hard.

Also I said "i do think it's true" to be clearer, i really do think climate change is a real thing with a warming trend in global temperatures as part of that.

 

[Thaluikhain]

but global warming IS climate change. it is not all possible forms of climate change, but one of the forms. that is, warming.

Um...yes. In the same way that cars built by dragons are a particular type of car, it's perfectly possible to believe in cars, but not cars built by dragons.

cap: Dragon with matches

huh

so then you believe climate can change, but it cannot get warmer? because thats not a particular type odf change you can thing of. Quite a strange position.

Ah, you mean believe in the possibility, not believe in the certainty?

Because otherwise you could believe the world was getting colder, or staying on average the same but with regional changes, for example.

 

[Strazdas]

but global warming IS climate change. it is not all possible forms of climate change, but one of the forms. that is, warming.

Um...yes. In the same way that cars built by dragons are a particular type of car, it's perfectly possible to believe in cars, but not cars built by dragons.

cap: Dragon with matches

huh

so then you believe climate can change, but it cannot get warmer? because thats not a particular type odf change you can thing of. Quite a strange position.

Ah, you mean believe in the possibility, not believe in the certainty?

Because otherwise you could believe the world was getting colder, or staying on average the same but with regional changes, for example.

what you said is you believe in cliamte change, thus that climate is changing, but not in global warming, thus you do not believe that climate is getting warmer. so hence it comes that you can believe climate can change in all ways but warmer. which is kinda odd.

I don't believe in it but the good thing about evidence based science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.

I do think it's true though.

So you know there is a good amount of evidence and still think it is false? are you ignorant on purpose?

Um, wut? no, I just try to not hold things as beliefs since that means when they change (they always changes, we know imperfectly at best) It's not a belief i have to change. Changing beliefs is hard.

Also I said "i do think it's true" to be clearer, i really do think climate change is a real thing with a warming trend in global temperatures as part of that.

i am a retard. i misread it as "i dont think its true" and replied. my fault.

 

[MeisterKleister]

The term "Global Warming" commonly refers to the recent rise in worldwide temperatures in the last 200 years.
Please refer to the FAQ I posted above: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_warming

Q22: Why does the article define "global warming" as a recent phenomenon? Hasn't the planet warmed and cooled before?

A22: Yes, the planet has warmed and cooled before. However, the term "global warming" has lost most of its generic meaning and is used nearly exclusively to refer to the recent episode, often even directly connected with the greenhouse effect. See e.g. Meriam-Webster, Encarta, OED. Similarly, "global warming" is used nearly exclusively to refer to the current episode in the academic literature.[14]. Per WP:COMMONNAME, we use the term in this most common meaning. Climate change deals with the more general concept.

 

[Thaluikhain]

what you said is you believe in cliamte change, thus that climate is changing, but not in global warming, thus you do not believe that climate is getting warmer. so hence it comes that you can believe climate can change in all ways but warmer.

Er, no, that would mean I believe the current change is something other than getting warmer, not any and all possible change.

 

[Strazdas]

what you said is you believe in cliamte change, thus that climate is changing, but not in global warming, thus you do not believe that climate is getting warmer. so hence it comes that you can believe climate can change in all ways but warmer.

Er, no, that would mean I believe the current change is something other than getting warmer, not any and all possible change.

which is what i meant but my poor English skills have betrayed me.

 

[PromethianSpark]

Yes, I believe that global warming is real and that human activities are the primary cause, because as I understand it, that's what the evidence so far points to.

Global warming is the rise in the average temperature of Earth's atmosphere and oceans since the late 19th century and its projected continuation. Since the early 20th century, Earth's mean surface temperature has increased by about 0.8 °C (1.4 °F), with about two-thirds of the increase occurring since 1980.[2]

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and scientists are more than 90% certain that it is primarily caused by increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases produced by human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation.[3][4][5][6] These findings are recognized by the national science academies of all major industrialized nations.[7][A]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Educational Youtube channels I recommend on the subject:
potholer54 [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP]
greenman3610 [http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610/videos]

Besides the English Wikipedia article on the subject, I personally would also recommend reading the FAQ on its Talk page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_warming/FAQ

Its been Proved! End of discussion!

 

[somonels]

It's irrelevant. We need to learn geoengineering and terraforming at some point, might as well be now.