Poll: Do you think it's right to hate a game just because of it's ending?

[Ironbat92]

Now, I'm not trying to bring up Mass Effect 3's ending, but I've been seeing a trend lately since that games ending. I've been a lot of people hating a game based on its endings alone. Again, not just Mass Effect 3's. I've seen it on AC III, Fall of Cybertron, Prototype 2, and so on. Do you think we should dislike a game because of how it ended?

 

[Nomanslander]

This has been around longer than ME3, ME3 didn't start a trend, but the last thing you remember from a game or movie general tends to be the last moments of said game or movie.

 

[DustyDrB]

You can feel free to hate a game for any reason you want. I can't really say you're wrong about how you feel, can I?
That's not to say I don't find it weird to hate a game on that basis alone [footnote]Though that is not all Mass Effect 3 has going against it. It actually has a lot of big problems, and this is coming from a guy who likes the game[/footnote], but you feel how you feel.

 

[DoPo]

What Nomanslander says is correct - Mass Effect did not start this trend in any shape or form. People have disliked games for even more minor things than the ending.

What DustyDrB is also correct - every person is free to decide for themselves, if they should or shouldn't dislike a game based on any factor. I might decide to dislike a game for the poor way it handles certain details in this day and age - that doesn't make me more or less correct than you if you feel differently.

I don't see what much more can be said about it. But I assure you, there would be more said, so I'll be curious to see what.

 

[Windcaler]

Now, I'm not trying to bring up Mass Effect 3's ending, but I've been seeing a trend lately since that games ending. I've been a lot of people hating a game based on its endings alone. Again, not just Mass Effect 3's. I've seen it on AC III, Fall of Cybertron, Prototype 2, and so on. Do you think we should dislike a game because of how it ended?

I dont know about hating a game due to its ending but Ive certainly felt like the experience was ruined because of an ending. The first time this happened for me was final fantasy X. That was a game in which I felt Tidus was my avatar and I became invested in the characters and the world. He did many of the same things I would have done, although many other things I wouldnt have. Regardless that ending ruined the entire experience for me because it took the direction that I felt his character wouldnt take. Why just accept fading away instead of holding onto whatever life he could with teeth and claws? It just felt very uncharacteristic of him

To dumb it down there are three basic phases in storytelling. Build up (theres another word for this but I cant remember what it is off the top of my head), climax, and resolution. Often the resolution is what can make or break a story

 

[Doom972]

I played many good and even great games with crappy endings. It's an old problem with video games. I don't think a game deserves hate only because of its ending. As for disliking it, maybe it does. Developers shouldn't just botch the ending because of budget/time constraints every single time. I wouldn't mind some of the middle to get cut instead.

 

[votemarvel]

The ending, especially in the final part of a trilogy, is the culmination of everything that came before it.

If it doesn't hit the right note then it can sour the impression of even the best story. Just as how a well done ending can make people ignore faults.

So yes, I do think it is fair to 'hate' a game because of its ending. Just because you hate something doesn't mean that you can't acknowledge that it had good parts.

 

[Smooth Operator]

The ending is part of the package and if the package isn't good enough then damn right they can hate it.
And I highly doubt any game that was viewed negatively had "just a bad ending", fans and critics alike may use it as a quick escape goat so the rest doesn't need to get addressed, but if a game left a bad taste in your mouth then the ending was just a tip of the iceberg.
I for one do not remember ME3, AC3 or Prototype2 being so great that only the ending can get bad marks.

If you want to live in blissful ignorance and imagine all the games you enjoy are perfect then by all means, but do not expect us to worship the same shrines you do and keep quiet for the sake of your pristine bubble of happiness.

 

[endtherapture]

Sometimes, and ending is so bad that it makes the entire journey up to it completely worthless and like oyu don't want to watch or play it again.

Lost, and Mass Effect 3, are those endings.

 

[Joccaren]

The ending is part of the package and if the package isn't good enough then damn right they can hate it.
And I highly doubt any game that was viewed negatively had "just a bad ending", fans and critics alike may use it as a quick escape got so the rest doesn't need to get talked about, but if a game left a bad taste in your mouth then the ending was just a tip of the iceberg.
I for one do not remember ME3, AC3 or Prototype2 being so great that only the ending can get bad marks.

If you want to live in blissful ignorance and imagine all the games you enjoy are perfect then by all means, but do not expect us to worship the same shrines you do and keep quite for the sake of your pristine bubble of happiness.

Pretty much what this guy said. Asking if you can hate a game because of its ending is like asking if you can hate a game because of a shitty interface, terrible controls, or broken aspects of gameplay. Its part of the whole product, and if its bad enough there is no reason not to hate it for that.

Also 100% agreed on the fact that it is never just a bad ending that causes problems. In the case of ME3 its what gets talked about the most thanks to how overwhelmingly bad it was, but even during the height of the Ending Phenomenon on BSN you'd still find at least 3 topics active to how terrible Kai Leng was, how the Thessia Mission was shit thanks to his plot armour, how they screwed up the Rachni, people not liking how Cerberus was handled, the masses of auto-dialogue and virtually every other complaint under the sun. At times it was a 50/50 split between Ending topics and non-ending topics, so people's problems weren't just with the ending.
Were it just the ending that had problems most people wouldn't really care - just skip the ending next playthrough. The rest of the game having problems is what causes people to stop playing and start complaining, it just so happens that a lot of those problems could have been fixed via the ending, but were arguably made worse instead.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

What Nomanslander says is correct - Mass Effect did not start this trend in any shape or form. People have disliked games for even more minor things than the ending.

What DustyDrB is also correct - every person is free to decide for themselves, if they should or shouldn't dislike a game based on any factor. I might decide to dislike a game for the poor way it handles certain details in this day and age - that doesn't make me more or less correct than you if you feel differently.

What they said

If the ending of a great game makes you hate the entire game, that's completely on you. Nothing against you, nothing against the game it's all down to personal opinion. Furthermore, Mass Effect 3 isn't the first game to have a bad ending sequence blah blah. The fact that Force Unleashed 2 is what it is has offended me to the point of swearing off of that particular series entirely (Force Unleashed 1 and 2 happened before ME3, right?)

To speak directly about Mass Effect 3 though, the ending was bad but the character moments and set pieces before it more than made up for it (which is my opinion). Besides, you can't look me in the eye and tell me it was worse than the Human Reaper of number 2! I will however accept the argument that fighting the Human Reaper in 2 is better than the final fight against Marauder Shields in 3...no Harbinger fight? lame...

 

[Skoldpadda]

Yer darn tootin' I can hate the guts of a game because of its shitty ending.

Say you pay a hot chick for a sexy massage. The massage is great and all, but instead of giving you a happy ending she takes a massive smelly dump on your face. Methinks you won't leave a satisfied customer.

 

[Me55enger]

Yup.

I dont want to spend time building to a climax only to discover that the game failed to uphold its end of the bargian.

 

[Magicman10893]

I believe so. Especially when the game has a lot of time leading up to it. I recently went back and counted up how much time I spent in the Mass Effect franchise and found that prior to ME3 I spent close to 1,000 hours in it. To say that I was pissed off after all that time, all that work, when presented with that steaming pile of crap, is a complete understatement. Did I try to find the bright side? Yes. I decided to go and play the previous games, fall in love with the world again, and then skip the last hour or so. I haven't seen the ending since that Extended Cut and I hope I never do again.

 

[Nemu]

I don't think "we" should dislike a game because of the ending, but if I invest a lot of time and energy (lol) in playing a game and the ending sucks, I'm gonna hate it.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

People have a right to not like anything for any reason at all, there are no rules.

 

[loewen]

yea, a bad ending to a series I've spent a whole lot of hours on would really upset me.

 

[bafrali]

Why not? You can also get mad at the driver who crashed the car just when you arrived at home. Don't listen to his excuse of driving the car for hours. It was you who insisted on going without stop dipshit.

 

[Rawne1980]

People can hate whatever they want.

I've disliked games because of more minor things than the ending.

ME3 didn't start the shit ending trend. Games years ago didn't have an ending at all, we just got a "You Win" screen .... or "You're Winner" if you played Big Rigs.

However I will say that I didn't hate ME3 because of it's ending ..... I disliked it because it was a mediocre game all the way through.

 

[ProtoChimp]

Why not? You can also get mad at the driver who crashed the car just when you arrived at home. Don't listen to his excuse of driving the car for hours. It was you who insisted on going without stop dipshit.

I actually disagree with you in terms of game endings, but that post was just too clever I'm just gonna leave it as is.