Poll: Eye for an eye, what do you think?
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See I don't understand why people think this. There already are punishments for these crimes. You can even lose your life over them. Yet people still commit these crimes. You know why? Because they are mentally unstable. Someone will only preform such a horrible crime if they don't care about the consequences or they don't think they will get caught. I don't see how an eye for an eye would somehow change that.StonkThis said:
Also, en eye for an eye is just impractical. For example, what do you do to a rapist? Do you have someone rape them? How do you decide who rapes them? Is the government going to start hiring people for the purpose of raping rapists? Does that not sound absurd?
a quote i find absolutely terrible: An eye for an eye leaves the whol world blind.
If you poke my eye out, i get to poke out yours. You dont get to poke my other eye out again. I poke your eye and thats it
If you poke my eye out, i get to poke out yours. You dont get to poke my other eye out again. I poke your eye and thats it
If all the people who said yes poked the eyes out of the people who said no, then only the people who disagree with us are blind, and cant vote. we would win!
Yeah it was in highschool, have only seen him a couple of times since then, when I do I really should ask him what he did with it/suggest he send into something.wouldyoukindly99 said:
Gandhi couldn't have been more right =), think about it no matter if the punishment is equal, people will disagree on if it was fair, and some will just ingore due process of law and get revenge their way, igniting feuds that can go on for generations... i knew some one was going to use that gandhi quote btw=)IdealistCommi said:
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
This statement is an oversimplification and puts too much of a negative spin on the idea of retribution. while I won't say at this point whether or not it's the right thing, I do believe it is the fair thing. Personally, I am a fan of Hammurabi's code which, although rather dated, lists fair punishments for many crimes. However, The code is also impractical today, since acts such as chopping off a man's limbs and killing his firstborn are considered immoral..
But I digress. In short, i would amend Gandhi's saying to "An eye for an eye creates a world of one-eyed wise men," because after suffering the pain that you have caused another personally, you (or at least I) would never do such a thing to again, and would use that pain as a reminder both to myself and those around me.
This statement is an oversimplification and puts too much of a negative spin on the idea of retribution. while I won't say at this point whether or not it's the right thing, I do believe it is the fair thing. Personally, I am a fan of Hammurabi's code which, although rather dated, lists fair punishments for many crimes. However, The code is also impractical today, since acts such as chopping off a man's limbs and killing his firstborn are considered immoral..
But I digress. In short, i would amend Gandhi's saying to "An eye for an eye creates a world of one-eyed wise men," because after suffering the pain that you have caused another personally, you (or at least I) would never do such a thing to again, and would use that pain as a reminder both to myself and those around me.
But what if a poor person steals something from a rich person? How do you equalize that? You can't take anything from the poor person the rich person could use.MaxTheReaper said:
I happen to be one of those pacifists who believe that the world would be a better place if we all just stopped our vendettas and got along. And then put flowers in our hair and hugged some trees and danced merrily to the upbeat tunes of Enya and Cindi Lauper and...
Okay, I'll stop. But I dislike the idea of an eye for an eye. I personally practice the "attack me once I'll let it slide, attack me twice and I'll cave in your sack" method of vengeance.
This might be veering off topic a smidgen but this is a ridiculously close poll. 31 - 30 for eye-for-an-eye at the time of my voting. Way to go OP for finding a topic that splits Escapists right down the middle better than a great axe on a medieval battlefield.
Okay, I'll stop. But I dislike the idea of an eye for an eye. I personally practice the "attack me once I'll let it slide, attack me twice and I'll cave in your sack" method of vengeance.
This might be veering off topic a smidgen but this is a ridiculously close poll. 31 - 30 for eye-for-an-eye at the time of my voting. Way to go OP for finding a topic that splits Escapists right down the middle better than a great axe on a medieval battlefield.
Doesn't make sense, even if you agree with the theory.
Think about it, olympic sprinter gets leg chopped off by a programmer. Olympic sprinter chops off the programmer's leg as eye for an eye. Olympic sprinter loses livelihood, programmer does not.
The ramifications are never equal. It makes no sense.
Think about it, olympic sprinter gets leg chopped off by a programmer. Olympic sprinter chops off the programmer's leg as eye for an eye. Olympic sprinter loses livelihood, programmer does not.
The ramifications are never equal. It makes no sense.
You've missed the point of the quote, the quote is saying that if we constantly require equal damage done to each other as retribution, then none of us will end up able-bodied.benoitowns said:
It's unprofessional and too damn complicated.
You have to start calculating how you're going to pay him back and all. Say that a man kills your son but he himself has no son for you to kill, what are you going to do? Call the NYSE and ask what the going rate is between sons and flocks of sheep?
Just kill the bastard and be done with it. Simple and elegant. That way it's a "your actions, your consequences" type system, which is apparently something considered morally reprehensible these days.
Example: I didn't kill all those people! It was Mass Effect! Mass Effect killed them all! Yes, Mass Effect bought the guns and ammo, picked the targets, put the barrel in line with them and pulled the trigger each time! You can't punish me for what Mass Effect did!
Feel free to replace "Mass Effect" with whatever game you want.
You have to start calculating how you're going to pay him back and all. Say that a man kills your son but he himself has no son for you to kill, what are you going to do? Call the NYSE and ask what the going rate is between sons and flocks of sheep?
Just kill the bastard and be done with it. Simple and elegant. That way it's a "your actions, your consequences" type system, which is apparently something considered morally reprehensible these days.
Example: I didn't kill all those people! It was Mass Effect! Mass Effect killed them all! Yes, Mass Effect bought the guns and ammo, picked the targets, put the barrel in line with them and pulled the trigger each time! You can't punish me for what Mass Effect did!
Feel free to replace "Mass Effect" with whatever game you want.
Actually, my interpritation of eye-for-an-eye was to take something from the offender that was of equal value to what the victim lost, i.e. you break an athlete's legs? Well what's this, you're a programmer? Say goodbye to the hands that you use to program computers.Internet Kraken said:
And to the rapists? Who says you have to hire anyone? Just bind his/her limbs and put them in a cell with another rapist and have the guards turn the other way for a few minutes, simple.
I do.IdealistCommi said:
an eye for an eye is an incredibly bad system because the age of the people who committed the crime, the details about the situation around the crime or whether or not it was an accident. even if you fix these problems you will still have a situation where a child molester can do whatever he wants as long as he likes having sex with random men every time he gets caught.
and btw why do you think that it dosn't exist anymore? it was a fu**ing stupid idea and incredibly barbaric!