Poll: Ganking, Sport? or Grief?

[Alotak]

As a WoW player i naturaly assume peopl will know what this is.

If you don't here we are,
Ganking is going after lower Lvl targets or Lower tech targets (got ya back eve players).

As i am an evil 'son of a gun' and have the ability to kill things about 8 levels lower than me with one click, i do it all the time but what do peple think of it?

 

[Calobi]

The only time ganking is okay, in my opinion, is when you do it to stop someone from ganking.

Example, a friend of mine was playing WoW on one of his alts when a 50 (this was before the expansion) Warrior I believe kept killing him. He asked for my help and I obliged, ganking the warrior and then guarding my friend back to town.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Thats like being the Year 10 who's twice the size of everyone else. Runs around being a git to all those who are weaker.
Right up until they run into someone as big as themselves.

Wrong. Doing that in Wow, wrong.

You should be on TF2 instead!

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

i actually love ganking. as a lower level player, beating the ganker poses a massive challenge that is just too good to not try. it's also a 'nothing to lose' situation. if i get killed, then i just waste time. if he gets killed, he loses time, dignity, and pride.

i remember one time in WoW, getting ganked at a castle by an upper level group who caught me by myself. basically, i waited until they attempted to take down the castle boss, respawned and sapped their group healer... and laughed my ass off as they slowly realized that they took up too much up front damage to survive.

i did this solo, 4 more more times until they disbanded. sure a bigger group can kill 1 person in 2 seconds... but it only takes me 2 seconds to ruin their mission.

also, Rogues could always SAP and re-stealth before gettings attacked as far as 30 levels over their own level. so i could always retaliate and annoy higher level gankers. you just need to put a stick in their spokes to give them 10times the anguish they are making for you. people expect lowbies to get killed... they don't expect the pet to die or the lowbie to bait the ganker into an NPC mob.

 

[tiredinnuendo]

While it is true that ganking makes you a bad person, that's a microscopic wedge of the pie. The real thing to remember here is that playing any game where ganking is possible (read: MMOs) is what makes you a bad person.

- J

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Well before WotLK came out, my level 60 Warrior was puttering around in Thunder Bluff when word came that someone was being a pest in Bloodhoof Village (the nearby newbie spot). I get there, and lo and behold, some level 41 Human Rogue is slaughtering the NPCs one by one and obliterating the few low-level Horde who are flagging up to fight back. I ride in, find him, chase him down and dispose of him a few times... and then he has the gall to log onto a Horde alt and complain to me about killing him, saying he was "just having fun" and I should go find a "more fair fight".

Ahhh, hypocrisy.

I think my favorite moment, though, was when my little level 9 Troll Rogue sapped a level 60 Dwarf Rogue right in the face. Granted, it only lasted two seconds and I was horribly murdered immediately after, but still, I laughed.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I think my favorite moment, though, was when my little level 9 Troll Rogue sapped a level 60 Dwarf Rogue right in the face. Granted, it only lasted two seconds and I was horribly murdered immediately after, but still, I laughed.

that's what i'm talking about

it happens very rarely, but there is nothing more awesome than watching a bunch of random lowbies revolt and swarm over a Lvl 60 ganker and take him down.

 

[Copter400]

Neither. Cowardice. Unless it's in a really funny situation, I can't really see the satisfaction in killing someone several levels below you.

 

[GothmogII]

Well before WotLK came out, my level 60 Warrior was puttering around in Thunder Bluff when word came that someone was being a pest in Bloodhoof Village (the nearby newbie spot). I get there, and lo and behold, some level 41 Human Rogue is slaughtering the NPCs one by one and obliterating the few low-level Horde who are flagging up to fight back. I ride in, find him, chase him down and dispose of him a few times... and then he has the gall to log onto a Horde alt and complain to me about killing him, saying he was "just having fun" and I should go find a "more fair fight".

Before WotLK came out ? You mean Burning Crusade right? Cause I'd love to get my hands on Wrath of the Lich King if it's out already ;D Maybe get me one of them $500 Frostmournes too.


In relation to WoW, I'd assume you'd mean ganking on a PvP or RP/PvP server yes?
In which case, all that comes part and parcel of being on such a server, don't like it, then leave. Or, stay within safe areas with /PvP, off. If it comes to such a point where you are being camped mercilessly, just leave the area, or maybe get a group of your own friends together and turn the tables. And, if you really feel the need, and think it deserves it, make a ticket, but, being as they are, don't expect someone to get in trouble for PvP'ing on a PvP server ^^

As for the higher levels ganking lowbies, no, it's not fun, but, you'll probably be their level someday too, and end up doing the exact same thing >

 

[Agent00abe]

As for the higher levels ganking lowbies, no, it's not fun, but, you'll probably be their level someday too, and end up doing the exact same thing >

Couldn't have said it any better. If you don't like the smell in the bakery, leave. It's as simple as that. If you get beaten in football all the time by someone bigger/better than you, do you whine as well?

 

[Singing Gremlin]

A reverse-gank in action. EvE players HAVE to watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTn9EASiPMY

Spoiler

For those who don't play eve, the group are in haulers - nearly useless for combat. The ship they kill is a 100 million ISK Heavy Assault Cruiser, one of the nicest combat toys out there.

 

[bmgibben]

As for the higher levels ganking lowbies, no, it's not fun, but, you'll probably be their level someday too, and end up doing the exact same thing >

Couldn't have said it any better. If you don't like the smell in the bakery, leave. It's as simple as that. If you get beaten in football all the time by someone bigger/better than you, do you whine as well?

And this is why it keeps happening. Just because someone was a prick to you, doesn't mean you should be taking it out on other people. There is a difference between just killing every enemy you see, and waiting around for the little ones to get back just to ruin their fun.

that's what i'm talking about

it happens very rarely, but there is nothing more awesome than watching a bunch of random lowbies revolt and swarm over a Lvl 60 ganker and take him down.

This doesnt really ever happen. 20 L10s cannot take down a L60 or 70 unless the 60 is drunk or asleep. A few L30s could. But if someone is really ganking you (not5-8 levels above, more like 12-25), there isnt a damn thing you can usually do about it unless the person it totally inept.

While it is true that ganking makes you a bad person, that's a microscopic wedge of the pie. The real thing to remember here is that playing any game where ganking is possible (read: MMOs) is what makes you a bad person.

- J

So I guess we should all go back to playing single player games, huh? Since you can "gank" in TF2 if your clan goes and plays newbie-friendly games. Same in RTS games, TBS, and pretty much every other game. On, and you can still grief someone in a single player. You just pull the plug. Pricks are everywhere. Calling people "bad" for playing community-oriented games is just asinine.

 

[00exmachina]

Ganking is what you make of it. One of my favorite WOW moments was when I was playing a druid, rooting a level 60 warrior just long enough to get massacred by the town guards after a killing spree.

I've also kited gankers into town guards.

 

[Korhal]

Ganking takes the fun out of the game. If you're the ganker, it can't possibly be fun to kill someone with no hope of fighting back, unless you are exceptionally mean or cruel. If you're the gankee, your time is wasted, it's frustrating, and irritating that someone is that mean. Say I only have an hour to play today. Granted, you don't know that, but if I spend 45 minutes of it graveyard running (or respawning or whatever you do in your game of choice)... you've killed my whole day, gamewise.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

i personally like how warhammer online is going to deal with this, if you gank someone in a lowbie level and you're a lot higher level than the zone, you get turned into a chicken and you can't do anything but everyone can kill you cause you're hp is 1

as was said before it's a cowardly move to kill someone who isn't as strong as you. i'm willing to be that everyone that says it isn't would say the same thing if someone larger than them were beating them up in person, just cause it's a game doesn't make it any less of a cowardly act

 

[Zemalac]

It depends on the situation. What you're talking about--basically wandering around randomly slaughtering low-level characters and thus possibly ruining their day--is wrong. The only good thing about it is the feeling of satisfaction others will get from killing you.

The only time that killing low-level players would be appropriate is in a massive organized battle like happens in EvE sometimes. If you need to wipe out a lot of fighters so your organization can take a certain objective, be my guest. That's part of the battle.

 

[TheIceface]

I don't play WoW, and I don't know if I ever will, but I have to say yes. Go for it.

I realize it can be a bit annoying trying to do something with high level people constantly killing you, but I'm still for it.

Like I've said before, the strong have a duty to convince the weak to be stronger. Thats why older brothers pick on younger ones, smart people correct stupid people, and normal people put nerds in trashcans.

 

[Stammer]

In one of my five days of WoW hell before I put a magnet to my hard drive to erase the game from existence forever (not really, but I really felt like it), I was a Lv.20 dude running around and frolicking in the quote-unquote 'graphics' when suddenly some Lv.60 douche came up to me, stabbed me with his knife, killed me, and then laughed at me.

I think ganking is good to teach a lesson, not as a sport.

 

[Alotak]

i Gank in order of a challenge to be honest, when you get about 4 70s trying to kill you eluding them is fun. And they wont come after you uless you kill the lowbies.

I get together with about 10 friends and we will activly 'Hunt' some lower levels for fun.
We wont kill them every time and i remember it happening tt me i enjoyed the thrill of trying to escape, trying new ideas you know. Give the Gankers a challenge and they are more likely to let you go IF they find you!