Poll: Hard science, in your sci-fi games?

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CuddlyCombine

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I'm a geek at heart. There, I said it. I'll latch on to any gaming news or scientific discovery I can, and leech it for all the information I can. This has a silly, bothering side-effect, however; I'm a hound for details and correctness. In other words, if I see the latest zombie flick, I'll be bothered if it isn't realistic.

Now, I know that's ridiculous. The very premise of a zombie movie, or X-Men movie, etc., is fictional. However, I'm looking for the most possible realism. For what purpose, I don't know; make the movie easier to relate to?

Anyway, I was playing Mass Effect earlier, and I found myself marveling over the Codex feature. For anyone who hasn't played the game, the Codex is basically a library's worth of in-universe backstory which you unlock through exploring in the game. It is absolutely worthless from a game point-of-view, but it has a wealth of information. I've read it all. Another (albeit less-detailed) example is Resident Evil 5, which lays out a lot of information through dossiers and such. Again, not mission-critical, but just there in case you're hungry.

I guess I just love the feeling of having everything explained and imagined out; it isn't some haphazard, arbitrary machine which produces aliens and lasers and says, "And they exist." Rather, it calls back to a Lego-like construction giving you a tour of each brick's layout and history.

I know that most of it isn't real science. Mass effect fields do not exist, etc. However, making it all feel realistic seems to give the game a much cooler, in-depth feel. So, anyway, here's my original question; do you like games with 'hard science' which try to explain their technology and give you as much information as possible? Or are you more of a 'soft science' gamer, who will play any LucasArts game regardless of shallowness?
 

0thello

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I clicked yes. Nothing pisses me off more than when villains use slogans like "natural selection" or "evolution" as an evil scheme. As if people with misconceptions didn't think it was bad enough...
 

Daveman

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lol, 100% so far!

I like real science such as warp drives... they're fun and interesting in ways teleportation isn't...
 

MrSnugglesworth

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I hate in movies and games where something goes unexplained or explained stupidly.

Like Pixar movies. They're practically cartoons and I go "That house isn't going to get pulled up from all those ballons" or "A rat would NOT be talking or cooking." (Thats why I despised Rat-french-e)
 

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I don't mind when something doesn't make sense in a movie or a game considering the world it's in.
However I DO love more when science and technobabble is made together to create a more believeable world such as with Mass Effect. I read every goddamn word in the Codex <3
 

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Seriously though, I agree 100 %.

An example is the X-men movies. The 3rd and last had an element in it that ruined the experience a lot for me.

Mutants are, you guessed it, mutants. Their genes has mutated. Apparently coming close to someone with a special gene nullify that mutation. WTF?
 

A random person

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I for one love the use of actual science in fiction. I just love how it demonstrates that science isn't dull and boring and that awesome shit can happen. Also I simply find that explanations make the story and universe more entertaining and improve it.
 

Lord Azrael

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My favourite books are those that make no stupid halfwitted assumptions. My favourite sci-fi author is Alastair Reynolds (a physicist I believe) whose books are grounded in physics (even if theoretical) and who envisages a potential future without FTL travel but with some awesome characters and plots.
 

oliveira8

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Mrsnugglesworth said:
I hate in movies and games where something goes unexplained or explained stupidly.

Like Pixar movies. They're practically cartoons and I go "That house isn't going to get pulled up from all those ballons" or "A rat would NOT be talking or cooking." (Thats why I despised Rat-french-e)
Dude...they cartoons...they not suppose to be real...at all.

They suppose to be fun and built on wacky fantasies. Why the hell you complaining about cartoons?
 

MrSnugglesworth

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oliveira8 said:
Mrsnugglesworth said:
I hate in movies and games where something goes unexplained or explained stupidly.

Like Pixar movies. They're practically cartoons and I go "That house isn't going to get pulled up from all those ballons" or "A rat would NOT be talking or cooking." (Thats why I despised Rat-french-e)
Dude...they cartoons...they not suppose to be real...at all.

They suppose to be fun and built on wacky fantasies. Why the hell you complaining about cartoons?
Thats the point! I can't stand it even if I think to myself "Its just a cartoon, it should be like that."
 

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'Real' Science isn't essential to a good game but it does add another layer (to me anyway as i am a true geek). It's always nice in a good book or game to get a glimpse that the people who designed it had an intrest in real world phenomena other than the physics of explosions. Mass effect is a great example, its little sparks of real science made for a more immersive world allowing you to be more effetively sucked in.
On the other hand i have no beef with total fantasy escapism, i like fantasy games with magic, and magic runs about as counter to science as litteral religion.
 

BloodSquirrel

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I prefer to get as little explanation as possible, because 99% of the time the author's attempt to explain science-y things just gives me a migraine.

"Hm. It looks like the sub-atomic ions vibrated at a low enough frequency to emit their neutrons, turning them into anti-matter!"

"Maybe if we reverse their polarity, they'll turn back into photons!"

"It just might work!"
 

CheeseSandwichCake

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Science makes science fiction boring most of the time, if people followed science to the core that is. As long as they're correct about 75% of the time with their science then it's good but it's going to get boring if we did things 100% true to science, since A LOT of the things in science fiction simply CAN'T exist due to impracticality, logistics issues (Where will you find that many crew for something the size of a deathstar?!) etc.
 

Flishiz

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I rather liked Mass Effect for it's mix of Sci-Fi and existing scientific information. It felt nonalienating to the ones that didn't love their science classes, but was like a personal gift card to the physics-loving, chemistry-worshipping nerd behind this keyboard.
 

scnj

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No. I find hard scientific facts about space travel interesting, but I wouldn't want to see it in games or films because it would make space battles and the like very boring. I'd rather have an unrealistic, exciting space battle than a scientifically accurate one that bores the shit out of me.
 

Bellvedere

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I'm pretty forgiving for bullshit technobabble. I watched Stargate for years. You build up an immunity to it when all the galaxies problems can be solved with C4 and adjusting crystals.

Though I do look it when games and for that matter TV do it well. Like Mass Effect as everyone's mentioned was brilliant, there's something so wonderful to that degree of universal detail. I also appreciated how it wasn't forced on you when you were in the middle of missions so you could go back a peruse at your own lessuire without skipping anything because you weren't in the mood.

I also think of Battle Star Galactica, which just skipped the whole technobabble thing altogether which really worked, better to do it well like ME or not at all.

Well if you want to be taken seriously anyway.

Which is probably overrated.
 

Xegewrath

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More information is always nice, however not to the point where it affects the gameplay and bogs it down until it becomes a stagnant piece of boredom.
 

gupy77

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thats what I liked about star ocean: till the end of time it had a whole encyclopedia devoted to scientific explanations and mythology on things in the game
 

quiet_samurai

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it's good up to a point, but when you got some asshole chiming in from left field about how a lightsaber is just impossible to make, or the ship in Star Trek exploded unrealistically I just tell them to shut up. MOST of the time these people just want to show off their intellect to make themselves feel better. I think someone who is nothing but brains and fact has no imagination and to afraid to accept the fact that we as people will not know everything and are not meant too.

Also, IT"S JUST A FUCKING GAME!