Recently one of my good friends has ask for my opinion on an argument she's gotten herself into on the subject of the definition of the word irreverent; on a game (guildwars) related site of all things. I'm not entirely certain of it's definition myself any more and obviously have no intention of joining the argument but I would like to put her mind at rest as she gets wierd (obsessive and more) about this sort of thing. I suspect any input by myself will only fan the flames of their disagreement but at least it will (hopefully) keep her off my back 
Any ways here's the argument, with the names removed in case anyone here knows either of them. I may or may not be person 3
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Note: this is very long winded and is still on-going><quote=Person 1> I know it's not exactly great. The whole point was to make use of skills that aren't really used by the other builds on [insert site name here].
<quote=Person 2> What makes you think this build is good AT ALL? You are NOT actually doing that much damage. You actually don't need to waste your elite on e-management. What is this build actually for??? The fact is, there is no reason to run this build anywhere because it is inferior to everything.
<quote=Person 1> You're a rather abrasive and irreverent fellow aren't you [person 2]? Could you possibly lrn2read; the whole point of this was to try and do something different in spite of probable failure.
Regardless I was going to delete this anyway.
<quote=Person 2>....looooool, "irreverence." Stop trying to use big grown up words you don't know the definition to. Stop thesaurusing...srsly, this is [insert site name here]. trust me, you don't sound any smarter.
<quote=Person 1>I am quite sure I know the definition, sir (I assume you are a "sir", apologies if I am incorrect). I can only surmise that you yet again did not read the comment properly, do not understand the meaning of the word yourself or believe I am being condescending. I assure you my vernacular is not thesaurus-sourced and apologise if it offends you or, unintentionally, puts your intellectual ability into question by whatever means to which I apparently am blind.
<quote=Person 2> Rolfl this is [insert site name here]. srsly. Stop trying to sound smart. You either used "irrevent" incorrectly or are completely full of yourself: there is nothing here to be irreverent towards, e.g., there is nothing here worthy of reverence. Your whole posts reeks of either thesaurusing or trying to sound smart. I can't tell because your sentences are so poorly structured. Furthermore, you completely disregard the point I made (twice) in favor of mindless NPAing - CONGRATULATIONS, you are now learning how to [insert site name here].
<quote=Person 1>For the sake of argument: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/irreverent
I'm not trying anything, if you think I "sound smart" then I suppose I'm flattered. I'm not entirely sure how my sentences "are so poorly structured" but if they are then my boss must be either blind/very kind ;D
Perhaps I am missing something (your boundless level of imagination?) but you have made one point. Either that or you are counting this recent comment as a re-iterance and in which case I must concede as my lack of ESP can only proceed to hinder me.
<quote=Person 2> "Irrevrent - showing a lack of respect for people or things that are generally taken seriously." -Oxford English Dictionary. Again, please show me what it is that is generally taken seriously that I am not. This build is LOLworthy, as I've tried to explain (twice). Your posts are full of borderline NPAs. And your attitude is "I am pretty full of myself." Oh I get it, I'm irreverent towards [insert site name here]? (LOL!).
<quote=Person 1>Click the link - that is the definition I am aware of (thankfully it was the same definition as I thought it was and my memory wasn't doing a mischief)
<quote=Person 3> You two are arguing over the definition of a word, you both think of it as different things obviously. Now get back on topic xD
<quote=Person 1>Sorry about all this. Anyway [person 2] if you had cared to read one of my above statements where I stated that this 'build' was, indeed, crap (in my less vulgar but apparently obscuring manner, oh how long ago that was...) instead of running around guns-blazing you would have realised I had hoped there was some kind of means by which it's awfulness could be rectified.
I don't bother with Blood Magic usually (orders/BiP are not my thing) but anything I do use normally has been thought up by the [insert site name here] community far in advance of myself (only recently found out about this site).
<quote=Person 2> The wiktionary link gives pretty much the exact same definition. And you are telling me to "learn2read"?????
"Disrespectful, cynical, caviling, querulous, or vulgar, where one's own feelings, or especially deference to the feelings of others, customarily command silence, discretion, and circumspection.
<quote=Person 3> It isn't worth arguing about. Talk about the build not a bloody word ffs.
<quote=Person 2> We've already come to the conclusion the build is irredeemable trash.
<quote=Person 3> Then don't argue about words on it's talk page, delete it and if you want to be a pedant argue on talk pages.
<quote=Person 2> HOw about u MYOB and not tell me what to do?
<quote=Person 1>If you really think they are the same, and are not simply blinded by your need to win every argument (yes I've seen your comments elsewhere on [insert site name here]), then I give up. That kind of fuzzy logic is not something I can deal with (I've never found banging my head against a brick wall entertaining nor useful I'm afraid).
<quote=Person 2> lol, the definitions are very similar: "commanding silence, discretion or circumspection" re means of showing respect. It's not fuzzy logic, it's called knowing how to read. By the way, even if wiktionary were to support your usage (it doesn't), wiktionary doesn't even provide citation and you're using it to try to use it to prove a point by authority? Furthermore, the page is obviously incomplete considering it doesn't even list the other definitions of "irreverant." You are so wrong in every possible way. You were being pretentious and I called you out on it. You responded by being even more pretentious. Sad but expected.
<quote=Person 1>Ah crap... I now need to explain the concept of context to you!? I was never pretentious and wasn't using wiktionary to try to "prove my point by authority" but rather a means by which to get my point across without what you would assume to be pulling a definition out of my arse. I'm not sure how you could hold any expectations of me unless you are applying some kind of stereotypically defined template. It's almost unfortunate that this isn't a forum where quoting would be possible (well it is possible here but people would get out their torches and pitchforks) as I could walk you through this. Regardless, pretend this comment gives you whatever answer you have been hoping for because I tire of you and your version of "reading".
Are either right/wrong; why?
EDIT: Perhaps I should also clarify that "person one" (friend) is english and "person two" is american in case any cultural differences may have potentially played a part in this.
Any ways here's the argument, with the names removed in case anyone here knows either of them. I may or may not be person 3
<spoiler=-Click Here-
Note: this is very long winded and is still on-going
><quote=Person 1> I know it's not exactly great. The whole point was to make use of skills that aren't really used by the other builds on [insert site name here].<quote=Person 2> What makes you think this build is good AT ALL? You are NOT actually doing that much damage. You actually don't need to waste your elite on e-management. What is this build actually for??? The fact is, there is no reason to run this build anywhere because it is inferior to everything.
<quote=Person 1> You're a rather abrasive and irreverent fellow aren't you [person 2]? Could you possibly lrn2read; the whole point of this was to try and do something different in spite of probable failure.
Regardless I was going to delete this anyway.
<quote=Person 2>....looooool, "irreverence." Stop trying to use big grown up words you don't know the definition to. Stop thesaurusing...srsly, this is [insert site name here]. trust me, you don't sound any smarter.
<quote=Person 1>I am quite sure I know the definition, sir (I assume you are a "sir", apologies if I am incorrect). I can only surmise that you yet again did not read the comment properly, do not understand the meaning of the word yourself or believe I am being condescending. I assure you my vernacular is not thesaurus-sourced and apologise if it offends you or, unintentionally, puts your intellectual ability into question by whatever means to which I apparently am blind.
<quote=Person 2> Rolfl this is [insert site name here]. srsly. Stop trying to sound smart. You either used "irrevent" incorrectly or are completely full of yourself: there is nothing here to be irreverent towards, e.g., there is nothing here worthy of reverence. Your whole posts reeks of either thesaurusing or trying to sound smart. I can't tell because your sentences are so poorly structured. Furthermore, you completely disregard the point I made (twice) in favor of mindless NPAing - CONGRATULATIONS, you are now learning how to [insert site name here].
<quote=Person 1>For the sake of argument: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/irreverent
I'm not trying anything, if you think I "sound smart" then I suppose I'm flattered. I'm not entirely sure how my sentences "are so poorly structured" but if they are then my boss must be either blind/very kind ;D
Perhaps I am missing something (your boundless level of imagination?) but you have made one point. Either that or you are counting this recent comment as a re-iterance and in which case I must concede as my lack of ESP can only proceed to hinder me.
<quote=Person 2> "Irrevrent - showing a lack of respect for people or things that are generally taken seriously." -Oxford English Dictionary. Again, please show me what it is that is generally taken seriously that I am not. This build is LOLworthy, as I've tried to explain (twice). Your posts are full of borderline NPAs. And your attitude is "I am pretty full of myself." Oh I get it, I'm irreverent towards [insert site name here]? (LOL!).
<quote=Person 1>Click the link - that is the definition I am aware of (thankfully it was the same definition as I thought it was and my memory wasn't doing a mischief)
<quote=Person 3> You two are arguing over the definition of a word, you both think of it as different things obviously. Now get back on topic xD
<quote=Person 1>Sorry about all this. Anyway [person 2] if you had cared to read one of my above statements where I stated that this 'build' was, indeed, crap (in my less vulgar but apparently obscuring manner, oh how long ago that was...) instead of running around guns-blazing you would have realised I had hoped there was some kind of means by which it's awfulness could be rectified.
I don't bother with Blood Magic usually (orders/BiP are not my thing) but anything I do use normally has been thought up by the [insert site name here] community far in advance of myself (only recently found out about this site).
<quote=Person 2> The wiktionary link gives pretty much the exact same definition. And you are telling me to "learn2read"?????
"Disrespectful, cynical, caviling, querulous, or vulgar, where one's own feelings, or especially deference to the feelings of others, customarily command silence, discretion, and circumspection.
<quote=Person 3> It isn't worth arguing about. Talk about the build not a bloody word ffs.
<quote=Person 2> We've already come to the conclusion the build is irredeemable trash.
<quote=Person 3> Then don't argue about words on it's talk page, delete it and if you want to be a pedant argue on talk pages.
<quote=Person 2> HOw about u MYOB and not tell me what to do?
<quote=Person 1>If you really think they are the same, and are not simply blinded by your need to win every argument (yes I've seen your comments elsewhere on [insert site name here]), then I give up. That kind of fuzzy logic is not something I can deal with (I've never found banging my head against a brick wall entertaining nor useful I'm afraid).
<quote=Person 2> lol, the definitions are very similar: "commanding silence, discretion or circumspection" re means of showing respect. It's not fuzzy logic, it's called knowing how to read. By the way, even if wiktionary were to support your usage (it doesn't), wiktionary doesn't even provide citation and you're using it to try to use it to prove a point by authority? Furthermore, the page is obviously incomplete considering it doesn't even list the other definitions of "irreverant." You are so wrong in every possible way. You were being pretentious and I called you out on it. You responded by being even more pretentious. Sad but expected.
<quote=Person 1>Ah crap... I now need to explain the concept of context to you!? I was never pretentious and wasn't using wiktionary to try to "prove my point by authority" but rather a means by which to get my point across without what you would assume to be pulling a definition out of my arse. I'm not sure how you could hold any expectations of me unless you are applying some kind of stereotypically defined template. It's almost unfortunate that this isn't a forum where quoting would be possible (well it is possible here but people would get out their torches and pitchforks) as I could walk you through this. Regardless, pretend this comment gives you whatever answer you have been hoping for because I tire of you and your version of "reading".
Are either right/wrong; why?
EDIT: Perhaps I should also clarify that "person one" (friend) is english and "person two" is american in case any cultural differences may have potentially played a part in this.
