Poll: Is Logan the best comic book movie ever made?

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Zontar

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While I'm still in the afterglow of Logan, it's definitely the best comic book movie I've seen in years and will likely be my favourite movie of the year. It's also safe to say it'll be up there with Dredd and the Dark Knight in terms of being a movie I consider one of the best comic book movies I can think of and that such movies can be true high art.
 

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No. It's good - probably the best X-Men movie I've seen, but as I've said elsewhere, that's not that high a bar. Still better than anything the DCEU or MCU has produced thus far (for me at least), but it hasn't dethroned the likes of Dark Knight or Spider-Man 2. Of all the movies I've seen this year, at best, it would take the #3 position, and at worst, the #6 (out of 14 films). So, while "good," I'm not as enamored with it as many others.
 

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It was good, I would say it definitely tops the Dark Knight for me, but then again I was never a huge fan of the well-directed and mostly well-acted film that also had shit writing, as in the movie is completely filled with plot holes and the dialogue is too self-important.[footnote]I won't lie I do get a kick out of the fact that everyone has realized that David S. Goyer is a shit writer, shame it took Batman V Superman for people to realize that, I've never liked him and my dislike of Batman Begins is the main reason I've always been so nitpicky with the Dark Knight and Rises is easily the Worst of the 3.[/footnote]

While Logan is not as well directed as the Dark Knight the whole movie is very well acted with Hugh Jackman truly showing why he is the definitive Wolverine and how hard it will be to replacing by portraying a truly pathetic depiction of Wolverine, not to mention how damned perfect was Patrick Stewart as Xavier, regardless the film probably looks better than it actually is just by comparison, after all, it had actual stakes with important characters actually dying and very good and well-thought out character arcs.

While I do wish we had seen a bit more of Caliban or maybe gotten a compelling villain I think that the focus on the emotional hook of the story is why it works so well.

In any case, I don't think I'll consider this film one of my favourites but it's definitely damned good and for once I do feel the hype is deserved.
 

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Well... I don't really view Logan as a superhero or comic book movie. It has so little in common with its contemporary counterparts that it's IMO stretching the term to classify it as such. It's more of a genre piece done with superhero characters, much like The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight is a crime thriller/mob/terrorist movie with Batman in it, and Logan is a western road movie with Wolverine and Charles Xavier in it. There's also very little point of comparison for it: how many superhero movies have there been that have been definitively about facing the end, with no setup for sequels or spinoffs? That are deliberately melancholic, stripped down, character focused, not exciting and don't feature a wide, colourful cast or massive setpieces? Just in those terms only The Dark Knight even comes close, and even it is not without some bombastic action setpieces.

If we go by general consensus, then yes, I would say Logan is at least up there with The Dark Knight. But I never went crazy about TDK to begin with, and don't really think "I'm watching a comic book film right now". Logan is a fantastic film because it's a great film in general, and IMO attaching the comic book movie label to it is doing a disservice to its merits. It's also almost completely unique at this moment in time.
 

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Watchmen is the best Comic Book movie ever made:


And I eagerly await the possible Watchmen HBO TV series that's been thrown around in the news.

I just think everyone is hyping up Logan because of the casting of Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewert. Top Tier actors who could never do wrong even in thier worse movies.
 

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Every action scene was somehow shockingly brutal and using very clean and clear cinematography at the same time. It neither indulges in exxaggarating and fetishising the violence, nor does it whimp out on the bloody stuff. It is perfectly delivered and tonally on point, tense and exciting while never allowing itself to loose gravity. It also has a much more effective dark future than days of future past. Mechanized concentration camps and genetical elimination systems sound terrifying, but they were given the CG-PG marvel treatment and ended up loosing any real sense of threat or horror. in Logan mutants weren't wiped out with sci-fi fascism, but rather a form of corporate tyranny that is nearly invisible and yet constantly present and powerful. Even the scenes, on the farm endedup tying back in to the main storyline, and i didn't even think about it until after leaving the cinema. It vvery much delivers on the same crushing feeling that is invoked by Gotham city in the Nolan trilogy. The villains don't need a sky beam or a robot army to be effective, and in the end, even after they are defeated the problem isn't really gone, it's just been slightly stalled on one occasion. I would be interested in seing what happens to laura and her team afterwards, as i wonder how they would angle it now that there are no more mutants left to protect. This might end up being a reason why that will not matter, as X-men both in the comic books and the movies have always had such a strong civil rights paralell, exploring the lives of members of a persecuted minority. Now the mutants are literally an endangered species that cannot be saved from extinction
 

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My immediate gut reaction says yes, but I'm sure once the hype has waned there will be things people notice more that'll bring it down. At the moment, it blows most others out of the water and probably only faces competition from "Watchmen" for me.

Plus if more films come out in the vein of "Logan" we can more comic book movies to compare it to fairly.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Watchmen is the best Comic Book movie ever made:


And I eagerly await the possible Watchmen HBO TV series that's been thrown around in the news.

I just think everyone is hyping up Logan because of the casting of Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewert. Top Tier actors who could never do wrong even in thier worse movies.
Kudos!
 

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It's definitely up there with one of the best, if not the best. Easily the best X-Men movie anyway, I find most of them pretty boring and a bit too corny. Out of my favorites, it'd be hard to choose between Deadpool, Sin City, and Logan, but they're all such different kinds of movies it'd be a hard comparison.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Watchmen is the best Comic Book movie ever made:


And I eagerly await the possible Watchmen HBO TV series that's been thrown around in the news.

I just think everyone is hyping up Logan because of the casting of Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewert. Top Tier actors who could never do wrong even in thier worse movies.
Haha. No. Hack Snyder missed the whole point of Watchmen when he made that film.
 

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While I think that Logan was a phenomenal movie, calling it a comic book movie would be like calling Road to Perdition a road trip movie. Each movie has elements of their respective genres but those elements are only dressing instead of the entree, so to speak.
 

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twistedmic said:
While I think that Logan was a phenomenal movie, calling it a comic book movie would be like calling Road to Perdition a road trip movie. Each movie has elements of their respective genres but those elements are only dressing instead of the entree, so to speak.
Plus 'Road to Perdition' itself was based off of a graphic novel so it should also fall under the banner of "comic book movie."

As could all of these films:

A History of Violence
American Splendor
The Adventures of Tintin
Scott Pilgrim vs the World
Snowpiercer
Men in Black
From Hell
And many many more.

I get the impression that when people use the term "comic book movie" what they are actually thinking of is "superhero movie" and usually featuring a character from either Marvel or DC.
 

Zontar

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King Billi said:
I get the impression that when people use the term "comic book movie" what they are actually thinking of is "superhero movie" and usually featuring a character from either Marvel or DC.
To be fair even when you boil it down to just that we've long passed the point where the term "comic book movie" could ever be used as a descriptor of anything or the implication of any genre or tone a movie will have.

It's actually genuinely surprising to me that we still use see people using "comic book movie" or "superhero movie" as if it where a genre when it's basically the equivalent of saying something is a "book movie"
 

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Jiub said:
Zontar said:
King Billi said:
I get the impression that when people use the term "comic book movie" what they are actually thinking of is "superhero movie" and usually featuring a character from either Marvel or DC.
To be fair even when you boil it down to just that we've long passed the point where the term "comic book movie" could ever be used as a descriptor of anything or the implication of any genre or tone a movie will have.

It's actually genuinely surprising to me that we still use see people using "comic book movie" or "superhero movie" as if it where a genre when it's basically the equivalent of saying something is a "book movie"
It's genuinely surprising to me that you could possibly find that surprising. All comic book/ super hero movies feature the same tropes and basic formulas, therefore they're a genre.

Bunch of guys in tightly fitting, brightly colored plastic-y costumes punching eachother through buildings! Sound familiar? It's because I just described every avengers movie in 14 words.
Well you just described one comic book movie there is also a movie about a band of space misfits saving the universe, a movie about a frozen soldier uncovering a conspiracy, and a movie about a arrogant doctor learning magic.
 

Zhukov

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Well, it's definitely the best X-Men movie.

I would hesitate to say best comic movie though. Matter of taste I guess. I enjoyed it but I'm not really seeing what people are losing their shit over.

Heh. Would have thought a movie about an undocumented Mexican fleeing across the USA into Canada would have sent you into conniptions Zonty.