Poll: Japanese or Western Mecha?

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Xom

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Dr.Sean said:
The idea itself is pretty fucking stupid. Why would you waste billions of dollars on a one-man giant robot that punches things up [...]
I choose Western Mechs, because it's much more logical to stick machine guns or missiles on a 50 ft walking tank than it is to give it arms to pick stuff up or punch.
I didn't realize the cost of giant robot arms would be so great as to RUIN ECONOMIES by sticking them onto giant walking tanks.

Besides, humanoid-shaped mechs would start out as power armor that is 10' on average, mechanized exoskeletons for lifting or to serve as mobile heavy infantry armor.
 

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Souplex said:
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And gentlemen, my defensiveness was quite possibly justified.
I would say this thread has proven contrary to your fears for the most part.
OK, somewhat, it didn't get nearly as bad as the threads that inspired my fears. Still pretty bashy, though.
 

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I think giant, semi-robotic machines of war are awesome no matter where they come from. However, I am slightly biased towards the tentative nod to realism that the western mechas provide. And with that I mean mechas like mechwarrior etc, where they are definite machine-like, without human inspired limbs and functions like eastern ones usually have.

But in reality, a two-legged machine is a silly prospect really, an all terrain vehicle should have four or maybe even six, like ants.
 

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You might be right, I did kinda establish myself as a psycho.
Not if you mean it in the psychological context.
 

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Xom said:
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You might be right, I did kinda establish myself as a psycho.
Not if you mean it in the psychological context.
No, I just meant as someone who's overly jumpy, which I was. Again, though, experience here taught me to be like that with these subjects.
 

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I used to, and still do, play the MechWarrior tabletop game. So Western. Go Highlanders/Inner Sphere!
 

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A random person said:
Souplex said:
A random person said:
And gentlemen, my defensiveness was quite possibly justified.
I would say this thread has proven contrary to your fears for the most part.
OK, somewhat, it didn't get nearly as bad as the threads that inspired my fears. Still pretty bashy, though.
I haven't seen any bashing. I have seen people stating that they do not like the unrealisticness of Japanese Mecha, but nobody just saying they are inferior without reason just to be insulting.
 

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Souplex said:
A random person said:
Souplex said:
A random person said:
And gentlemen, my defensiveness was quite possibly justified.
I would say this thread has proven contrary to your fears for the most part.
OK, somewhat, it didn't get nearly as bad as the threads that inspired my fears. Still pretty bashy, though.
I haven't seen any bashing. I have seen people stating that they do not like the unrealisticness of Japanese Mecha, but nobody just saying they are inferior without reason just to be insulting.
I'll concede, this thread ended up a lot more hopeful than the hell I expected. Sorry for being so psychotic, I'm just conditioned that way.
 

matumba

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I vote in favor of the generally grittier slightly more realistic walking tanks from western stuff I.E. Mechwarrior and the Battletech Universe. Northwind Highlanders abu!
 

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Western. Mechwarrior 2 was the first game I ever played, and the Timberwolf (in later installments bastardized as the 'madcat'. Inner Sphere have no idea how to properly name 'mechs) is forever glued in my mind as the example for what all battlemechs (which I think is a better term than 'western mecha') should be.

My whole family loved it. My mother was a professional pilot of a Marauder, my father preferred the Nova. Both were Kahn before I could read, and I was in the saddle as soon as I could reach the joystick. God, those were good days.

So keep your weirdo mecha with hands that punch and hold various over sized swords, keep your massive rifles, your heavily anthropomorphic "battlesuits". Even the Battlemechs that had hands (Atlas, among others) never carried melee weapons, or threw unrealistic metal punches. Once, we were Warriors. Mechwarriors. It felt so right.

I just hope this new installment they're working on doesn't get dumbed down for the console generation, the way Mech Assault was. That wasn't Mechwarrior, not in any way that I'm willing to recognize. I can only hope they take more elements from Mech2-4, those were (relatively) well done.

Eherm. went off on a tangent there. Western battlemechs are what got me into the sci-fi genre, an obsession that continues even today in the books I read, the movies I see, the way I think about and imagine the world, and not least, the games I play. So you can understand my bias towards it.

That's not to say that I see Mecha as universally bad, there was one show I saw a long time ago about a guy who was secretly the pilot of this massive crime-fighting combat-suit thing, charging around this big cityscape in a cold, metallic future. That was okay. but once you take something massive and metal, with legs and (presumably) all those gyroscopes and such that allow them to stand up, let alone shift weight around in the degree necessary for them to throw those punches/swing that massive sword, and make it fly around? Jump Jets are stretching it, but making them dash around the skies like sparrows just puts me off.
 

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JWAN said:
yea see the best way to solve this is for each country to build one and make them fight to the death
That's basically the premise of Robot Jox (1990).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102800/
 

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TheMadTypist said:
Western. Mechwarrior 2 was the first game I ever played, and the Timberwolf (in later installments bastardized as the 'madcat'. Inner Sphere have no idea how to properly name 'mechs) is forever glued in my mind as the example for what all battlemechs (which I think is a better term than 'western mecha') should be.
This. The Timberwolf is still my all time favorite mech.
 

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Perosnally, my ideal mech is a stocky humanoid shape, very mobile and capable of making short flights with proper thrusters and such. The pilot is seated in the chest cavity, the head is an array of various sensors. It should have manipulators for any pushing pulling and grabbing that needs to be done, but all weapons should be built in, maybe some kind of energy weapon for close mech-to-mech combat, if the tech level permits. Metal Warriors for the SNES sums it up nicely, it's a very overlooked game.
 

traceur_

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Western, easy.

Jap mechs tend to way too anthropomorphic, just a big robot human a.k.a boring.