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murphy7801

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jboking said:
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because its proven to give you mental illness no thanks
It sure can...if it is abused. Of course there is that same argument you hear all the time, even pizza can be deadly and cause illness if abused (or used in excess).

A lot of what I want to say has been said in excess:
It's not that harmful
You can tax it
People use it anyway
etc.

The only thing left that I want to say is that a lot of the drug trade would stop if MJ became commercially available. Look a Alcohol prohibition, because it was illegal people would brew their own and traffic it to others. However, as soon as it became legal companies started to produce their own and made it readily available. The fact is, people pay for convenience. Could the alcohol trade have continued? Sure, but there was no way they could actually compete with a large company. It was no longer worth doing. I could easily see the same thing happening to marijuana.
Actually smoking it once a month still count as abuse since seems induce loads borderline mental illness.
I'm sorry...what? I cannot understand what you just typed. However, if what you are saying is that using something once a month is abuse because it can cause the negative effects I would ask that you retrieve some form of proof, because that is absurd.
Yes was awfully late when I wrote that sorry. What I was trying to express is that say smoke one a month for say 10 years increases your risk of mental illness. Oh there been a few papers on it just lately my mother over sees some of the research on it here in the uk.
I could see once a week but one joint a month for ten years...I doubt it. I would like to know how they figure this out. If they do a live field study then it could be easy to see that there were likely other factors that would lead to developing mental illness. Of course, my schools valedictorian smoked one every other week...if he was mentally ill then I would like to catch the same kind of illness he did.
Its more like how smoking increase your risk cancer even on one cigarette a month and already done case studies already with about 3 years observation time with regular mris. Basically my mother is psychological research adviser to the my county (I live in the uk so health service and university all inter linked to a point) basically she advises a team doing research on this.
 

undeadfly

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ive never found pot to be addicting. But stoners who spend every day smokin weed and doing nothing else at all give it a bad reputation because everyone assumes its the pot that makes you not do anything. When in fact it is because they are lazy fucks. Weed just makes them feel good about being lazy fucks.

I feel it should be legalized, there are far worse legal drugs out there. Just to name a few off the top of my head... Hydrocodine, Alcohol, Nicotine, Vicoden, Xanex.
 

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george144 said:
Well Marijuana is basically harmless, far better then alcohol in any case and I see no reason not to legalise it, its a great stress reliever and relaxer. Also useful for schizophrenia.
And Insomnia.
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
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legalizing for medical use only.
free use - No.
Yeah, because freedom just isn't that important. After all, mommy...oops, I meant the government told me that marijuana is bad.


It's my f*cking body, let me do what I want with it. (Coming from someone who has never smoked)
freedom? <-- doesnt make big sense anyway(then children should be allow to smoke cigarettes or drink alco - same freedom thingy) its banned for a reason, and you know it
 

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murphy7801 said:
Its more like how smoking increase your risk cancer even on one cigarette a month and already done case studies already with about 3 years observation time with regular mris. Basically my mother is psychological research adviser to the my county (I live in the uk so health service and university all inter linked to a point) basically she advises a team doing research on this.
Got a link? Either way, now that I think about it, once a month for ten years strikes me as excessive. I know a lot of people who just grew out of smoking it in less than 3 years.
 

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Partyjerk said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Partyjerk said:
legalizing for medical use only.
free use - No.
Yeah, because freedom just isn't that important. After all, mommy...oops, I meant the government told me that marijuana is bad.


It's my f*cking body, let me do what I want with it. (Coming from someone who has never smoked)
freedom? <-- doesnt make big sense anyway(then children should be allow to smoke cigarettes or drink alco - same freedom thingy) its banned for a reason, and you know it
Pointless example. Children can't fully comprehend actions, adults can. However 18 should be the drinking age.

It's banned for a reason, to politicize it and garner votes.
 

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I think I'd need to know more about the argument for having it legalized. I know there are arguments for it, I just have no idea what they are.

My current standing is: Harmful drug = do not legalize.
actually statistically its better for you than tobacco and alcohol...

and legalisation would mean the govornment could make money off it and gang revenue would decrease as a huge profit for gangs (in the UK) is the dealing of weed
 

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I have a feeling here most people have probably never even seen crack nevermind taking it, violence really? I have friends both here and in sweeden who you would classify as potheads and I mean real potheads they could not possibly be more fucking mellow if they tried, and its not like weed is expensive or addictive ot the level crack is unless your earning nothing atall I doubt any old woman is going to get mugged/killed for a fivers worth of weed.

Good for the economy either way people needed to grow it, people needed to regulate it, transport it, make sure it meets saftey standards and ofcourse sell it.
 
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Medical - Legalize it.

Free Use - The only example is the Dutch so I guess if other countries want to leaglize it fully, they'll have to follow they're example, or try very hard to make a better one. Personally, I wouldn't mind as long as it was kept in buildings where you can buy and use it, or in your house.
 

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pete240 said:
i will reprase what i said then all drugs which don't make you better such as heroin,coke,crack,weed,hash, LSD, Ectasy etc. people who do all that are idiots.
Idiots? Now thats a little harsh surely. Trip out? Have you ever even looked at the stuff? Let alone smoked any? I'm not going to lie to you, I've smoked the stuff for almost 10 years now and not ONCE have I tripped out....or over for that matter. If you want to argue about something, then learn a little beforehand please, (And disregard all of what the news/schools/authorities tells you, because all of it is fabricated.) Yes, that usually means first hand experience, but what would I know, I'm just a lowly "idiot stoner" according to some of you. I must have missed the meeting where you were all proclaimed "Gods of all living things" and could pass judgement just like that.

"Drugs" are chemically altered, man-made...cannabis/marijuana/ganja/weed/dope/blow/mary j, whatever you want to call it, is a plant, end of arguement. I dont drink alcohol, nor smoke tobacco, so I personally feel we're trading "vices". But hey, if you're that arrogant to enjoy yourself the way you want, but wont let anyone else enjoy themselves how they want, then you are a hypocrite.

I'll keep smoking regardless of class, laws or whatever, the world is in a huge mess right now and you want to stop people smoking cannabis? Surely there are more pressing matters at the moment.

It will never happen in my eyes, just because most of the world thinks that weed causes you to go batshit crazy. When people actually learn about it, and realise that their Governments have been filling them full of lies, just so you would continue to support their Fascist ideals, then it may happen.
 

Partyjerk

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Cliff_m85 said:
Partyjerk said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Partyjerk said:
legalizing for medical use only.
free use - No.
Yeah, because freedom just isn't that important. After all, mommy...oops, I meant the government told me that marijuana is bad.


It's my f*cking body, let me do what I want with it. (Coming from someone who has never smoked)
freedom? <-- doesnt make big sense anyway(then children should be allow to smoke cigarettes or drink alco - same freedom thingy) its banned for a reason, and you know it
Pointless example. Children can't fully comprehend actions, adults can. However 18 should be the drinking age.

It's banned for a reason, to politicize it and garner votes.
ofc in Latvia (Europe fyi) it is 18 :p
i still think weed would degrade the community... Not as hard as meth, etc.. but anyway
 

Terror_666

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I want to dispel a certain myth about the Netherlands and pot.
It is NOT legal in the Netherlands it is "gedoogd" which means that it is just barely allowed and strictly controlled, you can smoke it in your own home and in designated areas i.e. coffee shop, etc. you are allowed to grow it for personal use put you can only have 5 plants. You cannot sell the stuff personally, you can only buy it in coffee shops or special shops.
Basically the "Pulp Fiction" explanation.
The reason for this as far as I can understand it is purely the Dutch mentality of "as long as we have the bigger problems let the smaller ones slide".
My personal experience with pot is only from high school after which I quit because it was not interesting anymore. After that all my knowledge of the subject is second and third-hand, but what I can say is that most people who continue using after school(high school, college) usually turn into low-income losers.
 

Ctrl-Alt-Elite

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well... if you look at a country like holland which weed is legal i cant remeber the numbers but i know more people are still killed from alchohol and tobacco there than weed and not ALL off them are stoners
 

Terror_666

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Ctrl-Alt-Elite said:
well... if you look at a country like holland which weed is legal i cant remeber the numbers but i know more people are still killed from alchohol and tobacco there than weed and not ALL off them are stoners
main reason for that is a much smaller number of weed smokers than regular smokers and people who get cancer or other such ailments from pot are just choked up as smokers. As for alcohol well in the Netherlands you can start drinking at 16 with beer and at 18 you can get real booze including stuff that until 30 years ago was still being made in bathtubs and made drinkers go blind.
 

Aesir23

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I really don't care either way. Most people smoke it now anyway so what's the point of it being illegal? Hell, once a year people go smoke weed in front of the Manitoba legislation! (Personally I don't smoke it. Never have. Never will.)
 

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see_you_at_the_GALLOWS said:
... if it was legal it would be easy to pick and choose what you wanted because it would be monitered and their would be quality control.
Limits on what chemicals can be used to grow it and keep the aphids off, organic available at a premium, regular testing for contaminants, leaf and bud content and percentage THC by mass shown on the packet, that kind of thing? How about mixing it with spearmint and packing it into teabags? Twinings and Taylors of Harrogate would jump in for the race to get that range on the market, for sure!
 

CinosNroca

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I think it should be legalized. It is nowhere near as bad as cigarettes, it enhances tastes, sounds, sights, and think about all the money the gov. could save/make on taxing it. Instead of the millions of $$$ they spend on keeping it illegal, they might actually reduce our debt by a good chunk.