Poll: Modern Warfare 3: Would You Buy It If...

[razelas]

[sub]MW2 Spoiler alert[/sub]

So lately there's been a lot of people around these parts justifiably complaining about rampant American-nationalistic games, most notably in mainstream FPS games. At the same time, there's also been (understandingly so) a lot of hate thrown on Call of Duty/Modern Warfare games.

However, from where Modern Warfare 2 leaves off, half of the remaining ensemble cast, John "Soap" MacTavish and John Price, are on the run from NATO countries after killing Gen. Shepard. So it seems like actual American soldiers and not mercenary soldiers as seen in the last levels of MW2 could be enemies in Modern Warfare 3.

So would anyone buy Modern Warfare 3 if Americans/NATO countries were the enemies?

I have to say right now I don't think I'll be getting Modern Warfare 3, simply because I believe that no other developer could produce a decent Call of Duty game other than IF.

[sub]EDIT[/sub]

Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting using anti-nationalism against the US/NATO countries as a gimmick, but rather as political commentary to critique the US/NATO. I'm sure you've all heard of the wikileaks incident, involving US Army intelligence analyst, PFC (formerly SPC) Bradley Manning. Are you aware of his incarceration? [http://socialistworker.org/2011/03/08/torturing-bradley-manning]

MANNING HIMSELF is now experiencing the savage behavior of the Pentagon.

Manning has been in solitary confinement for more than seven months at a Marine brig in Quantico, Va. During that time, he has been subject to ongoing harsh treatment that, according to many experts, would rise to the level of torture under the Geneva Conventions (which Manning is not subject to, as he is not a prisoner of war).

This includes being confined to a 6-by-12-foot cell for 23 hours each day, constantly watched on video cameras, denied physical exercise and articles of clothing and bedding, denied sleep during the day and repeatedly woken by guards throughout the night.

The military claims Manning's treatment is standard for "prevention of injury" watch and that he is treated the same as any other detainee at Quantico--but these punitive measures are clearly designed to break his spirit.

Just 24 hours after being informed that he now faces a potential death sentence, Manning was reportedly forced to strip in his cell, and then left naked for more than seven hours overnight. When it came time for his "morning inspection" at 5 a.m., Manning was forced to stand, naked, outside of his cell and submit to inspection. He has had to undergo this humiliation every day since.

According to lawyer David Coombs, Marine spokesperson 1st Lt. Brian Villiard said "the decision to strip him naked every night is for Pfc. Manning's own protection. Villiard stated that it would be 'inappropriate' to explain what prompted these actions."

Let's face it: the US/NATO do shady, morally ambiguous things that could be arguably war crimes. And if this is what the Pentagon is doing to save face over a few leaked diplomatic cables, how far would they go to cover up corruption (i.e. Gen. Shepard) in the military leadership? I would be fairly interesting if MW3 would be able to criticize the US military and nationalism.

 

[Trolldor]

It would still be shit and still end in a "Fuck Yeah, America!" scenario.
So no.

 

[HapexIndustries]

Honestly I wouldn't buy the game if I'm fighting space ninja pirates and the game gives me free blowjobs (alright, maybe then).

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with gunning down some NATO countrymen. Wtf do I care? I like shooting people, I don't really care what color they are or what nationality.

Personally, though, I'd like a game where I can shoot people from the southern United States. And I'm sure they feel the same way about the north. So you could play either side in a modern American civil war. Hells yeah.

 

[razelas]

It would still be shit and still end in a "Fuck Yeah, America!" scenario.
So no.

I agree with the shit part, but I honestly can't think of a scenario in which the US looks good by the end, given the circumstances.

 

[mireko]

No. I know we make fun of the plot of the CoD games a lot (and with good reason), but they're not the only reason the single player campaigns are short, boring and unsatisfying.

 

[Still Life]

No.

BF3, Rage, Doom 4 are the next FPS games that will get my money.

And I'm very happy with Crysis 2.

I got to admit, military FPS games are just uninspiring now. I'm starting to rediscover my love for RTS with DOW II and SC II.

 

[theamazingbean]

The nationality of the enemies wouldn't really affect my decision in the slightest. If someone whose opinion I trust tells me it's a good game, then I will buy it.

 

[WorldCritic]

It won't really affect my decision. If someone is evil, I'll kill them. If someone is trying to kill me, I'll kill them. If someone is shown from a suspicious looking camera angle, I'll kill them. In the game of course.

 

[Saelune]

I wouldnt like it probably, but I would never say ban it.

 

[Wintermoot]

only if the SP is long also if COD VII was released a few month,s ago how the hell can they already announce IIX?

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

For me, Call of Duty is strictly a multiplayer experience. Who I'm facing in the portion of the game I won't be playing does not concern me at all.

Let's face it though, there will never be a CoD game with the United States as the enemy. Activision wouldn't allow it to happen.

 

[Senor Smoke21]

It would still be shit and still end in a "Fuck Yeah, America!" scenario.
So no.

If you think about it, the previous Modern Warfare installments aren't all that "Fuck yeah America!"
The American campaign finished pretty early on and disasterously in CoD4 and the game finishes with a "Fuck yeah Britain!"
Then with MW2, the American campaign is very patriotic and full of "fuck yeahs" but it finishes 3/4 in and by the end of the game you are again playing as the British fighting an American PMC run by an evil American general.

OT: The plot to MW3 could potentially be wierd though. I can't see a way for Soap and Price to get out of their situation without spilling NATO blood but then at some point you're going to play as an American soldier. The American campaign only has two options really, fighting to liberate the rest of the US from the Russians or chasing Soap and Price.

 

[Zorg Machine]

If the game is good I would play a game where you play as hitler, fighting of the invading forces on D-day.

 

[ninja51]

First they would have to make it a good game and stop releasing the same game literally 4 times with slight awkward tweaks and a reskin. Then I would buy it. Who gives a fuck if your country are the bad guys. Nationalism is the bane of the earth, it allows injustices, it allows for the worst things in the world to actually happen. Soooo ya, America is a bad guy in real life, seeing a decent videogame point out that blowing up half of cuba because their government doesnt get along with ours isnt exactly a decent thing to do wouldnt really turn me off of a game. Russia and every place with brown people have been getting gutted and thrown into the mud by nearly every shooter ever. The idea that one shouldnt buy a good game (assuming MW3 would pull a fast one and be good) because a "good" country was the bad one is rediculous. Then again, the bulk of my friends who love Call of Duty are white, republican, children of military/pastors, gun nuts. Not really the type of people who are open to new ideas and, what I give them shit about alot, logic.

 

[Eisenfaust]

i said no, but don't confuse that for pro-america sentiment, i just wouldn't by it regardless

 

[Kevonovitch]

i don't think i'd torrent, let alone spend ANY cash on another cod game, unless 2 things, 1-IF was the sole developer+publisher, and since the whole if and activision bit happened, proly never to happen again. and 2-if the game had ANY resemblance to quality, at ALL. i'm talking to you, cod5, mw2, bo, and any future cod game w/ activisions name on it.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

How about a war between NATO and America?