Poll: My rant to Valve about Steam.

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QuadFish

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Dec 25, 2010
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Short version because I'm an edit whore:
Portal 2 was about to start when Steam went "HA. JUST KIDDING", deleted some data for no reason and made me wait for six hours. I raged.


[I don't like the term 'open letter'.]

For starters, I like Portal 2 and I like Valve. I?ve been watching the hype over it and tracking the progress of the ARG. I chipped in with a friend and we got a twin pack and I then bought the game twice more as a gift for two of my friends. I bought the Potato Sack before knowing what was going on behind it and even counted down the last 40 minutes of the release after letting it pre-load for two days (to completion). To summarise, I was excited as hell about this game.

So you can hopefully imagine my disappointment when this appeared:
Steam download screenshot
(Except that it was on 0 MB)

Now as you can see, my connection isn?t particularly fast, but for starters couldn?t it just admit that downloading 1.7 GB at would never take 1 hour, 21 min at the top speed of 160 KB/s my connection handles? In fact the earliest it would take is 179 minutes. I hoped it would just be one of those cases where the data is there and it simply has to verify files, but in that case it usually does this about 20 faster than my connection. I checked the game folder and it has dropped from 9.8 GB after pre-load to 8.1 GB after unlocking. In short, it spontaneously deleted 1.7 GB of data.

That?s not what bother me most though. I know that this sort of thing happens sometimes with Steam, often if I were to delete clientregistry.blob or end the process after a hang-up, where it would react with a fixed download but a very slow update screen or something of the sort. But I did nothing of that kind. I just waited while it decrypted and never touched the PC while it was downloading. Basically, I did absolutely nothing to anger the fickle beast that is Steam and yet it still demanded a sacrifice of 1.7 of my precious gigabytes.

I get that Valve is running an extraordinarily complicated system of interconnected servers and ISP deals etc., but there really is no reason a program like this should just delete valuable data like that with absolutely no help from me. This isn?t even an isolated case for me. Back in my CoD4 days (I admit that VAC is a huge improvement over PunkBuster) I had to deal with the monthly 6 GB re-download ritual despite the fact that the game hadn?t been updated or changed for a year (and hasn?t since then). So I get that people like Mike Blaszczak and the other software engineers have a tough job, but who on earth added the deletePerfectlyGoodGameData(); function? Or more importantly (assuming it?s there for a reason), who designed the trigger for it to hit my precious virgin Portal 2 files?

Maybe I?ve wasted some employee?s time (maybe yours) by sending this to the general info address (since there is understandably no complaints address), but Steam is sure as hell wasting another two hours at least of my time while I wait for this thing to re-download. I suppose this doesn?t really achieve anything, but honestly I don?t have much else I?d prefer to do right now after planning to start Portal 2. I suppose it?s not even your fault that I have a trip to Dubbo due tomorrow and I?ll have far less time to try the game now, but it?s still severely annoying. Just something I really needed to get off my chest for once.

Facebook screen of friend suggesting that Gabe reads these complaints
(Maybe not gigantic, but you get the idea.)

Sincerely,
Me
Personal info I'd rather not post


P.S. Now that I?ve finished writing, the time is 5:58 pm (2 hours after download began) and it?s on 48%.

[Captcha: works dectom]

EDIT (at 3am): To summarise and clarify what I'm complaining about:
1) The malfunction was file related and not involved in the busy Steam servers at the time.
2) It didn't affect any of my friends.
3) I was this close to playing ("Preparing to launch..." screen) when it rejected me.
4) Everything seems to run completely smoothly except the areas that should work 100%.
5) It took 6 hours despite giving a constant ETA of 1 hr 30 min.
That said, the game (especially the co-op) is a lot of fun, so right now I'm focusing on the people who assume I'm an impatient kid who can't wait for a 30-60 minute download. I'm used to slow speeds on occasion and that sort of thing but the circumstances of this rejection just drove me insane.
 

darth.pixie

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Steam always had bizarre problems to the point where it erases important game files, doesn't download completely, deletes games out of nowhere and sometimes screws up its own files so that you have to install it again.

It's why there's an entire community out there of Steam haters. It's a good idea of a program, but very badly implemented. I never had many problems with it because I rarely use it but I've had many friends complain about it.

Not sure if this might help you since people have been complaining about it since the beginning, but good luck to you.
 

QuadFish

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Dec 25, 2010
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darth.pixie said:
Steam always had bizarre problems to the point where it erases important game files, doesn't download completely, deletes games out of nowhere and sometimes screws up its own files so that you have to install it again.

It's why there's an entire community out there of Steam haters. It's a good idea of a program, but very badly implemented. I never had many problems with it because I rarely use it but I've had many friends complain about it.

Not sure if this might help you since people have been complaining about it since the beginning, but good luck to you.
Thanks.

To be honest, I'm not really expecting any help at all, or even a reply, really. But of all times something could go wrong, why now and why so catastrophically? Why, god, why?
 

Moriarty

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Meh those chunks of data that vanished after the downoad was finished could've just have been files needed for the installation/download process itself, rendering them useless after the game is installed.
 

RuralGamer

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The other week when I bought Dawn of War 2: Retribution and installed it from disk, it started trying to download it afterwards; after 30 minutes I gave up and went away to do something else; it said that there was a 6GB download required to play it and that would take some 4-6 hours; after about 20MB, it gave up and started the game and its worked fine ever since.

Not the same problem, but it was sure weird.

Steam also tried to force me to download Total War: Shogun 2 rather install from disk, which would take 11+ hours. EVENTUALLY I found out how to do it from disk and that involves using the command console, something I have no experience with; in the end, after about 45-50 minutes, I FINALLY got it to start installing from disk and it did that in less than 15 minutes. Why doesn't Steam have an option on the installation screen to look for the relevant disk to install from rather than defaulting to downloading it?

I like Steam, just not some of the things it does at times.
 

taylorton147

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Feb 17, 2011
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steam always seems to do things the complicated way. someone mentioned it sometimes deletes data? well my G mod has went all funny with textures( the guns seems to stretch to some point in the map) i wonder if this is what happened to me,because i had no problems with G mod before.
 

QuadFish

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Dec 25, 2010
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SL33TBL1ND said:
The entire internet is playing Portal 2 right now, give them a break.
Please, I thought about all that. This is definitely not a network issue. It's a file issue with Steam.

Moriarty said:
Meh those chunks of data that vanished after the downoad was finished could've just have been files needed for the installation/download process itself, rendering them useless after the game is installed.
Everyone on my friends list I chatted with mentioned the file unlocking process and then got to play immediately afterwards. On the other hand, I've got one more step to go through, which is still only on 68% by the way.
 

Bobbity

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I came in here expecting a senseless rant, but I agree with everything you've said. Downloading from Steam is an absolute pain for me, and often it decides to mess with my mind just after I'm done.

It's a very good idea, but I can't say that the program of Steam itself is all that well implemented.
 

QuadFish

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Dec 25, 2010
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Bobbity said:
I came in here expecting a senseless rant, but I agree with everything you've said. Downloading from Steam is an absolute pain for me, and often it decides to mess with my mind just after I'm done.

It's a very good idea, but I can't say that the program of Steam itself is all that well implemented.
You know, I was actually kind of afraid it would be read as a complete load of nonsense, so it's good to hear that it came out at least semi-legible :)
 

Vault101

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Sep 26, 2010
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you know what I dont like about steam?

STOP pretending that those of us with slow or VERY VERY LIMITED internet do not exist!!!! we are your god damn customers too, please dont make it that I cant play (some) of your games![/B]
 

blankedboy

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1.7 gigabytes is that important to you?
Even if you're capped it's not that big a deal. I'm capped at 40 and I don't really care about that small a loss.
 

QuadFish

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PoisonUnagi said:
1.7 gigabytes is that important to you?
Even if you're capped it's not that big a deal. I'm capped at 40 and I don't really care about that small a loss.
1.7 GB does not bother me, but the fact that I started that 4 hours ago and it's only on 82% does.
 

taylorton147

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Feb 17, 2011
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i think we can agree that steam needs to step back from making everything fancy and refurbish some things.
 

Tony2077

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i don't have problems downloading stuff since i usually have at least 1mb or 1.5 mb a second. the only time i had a game fail when unlocking was maybe dawn of war 2 retribution or maybe it was one of the other games.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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QuadFish said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
The entire internet is playing Portal 2 right now, give them a break.
Please, I thought about all that. This is definitely not a network issue. It's a file issue with Steam.
Which very rarely happens, quit whining.
 

The Hot Sauce Thief

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Nov 14, 2010
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Well I've never had bizzare download problems, but sometimes my downloads take an extremely long time...BUT im using a wireless internet connection and the highest download rate I can do is 2MB/sec (but it's usually between 100KB-1MB/sec)