Poll: Obama's plan

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Gaz_mcMillan

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Now, If you have been watching the news lately them you would know that President Obama has announced that he will withdraw US forces from Iraq and put more troops in Afghanistan as part of his cunning strategy to stop the Taliban(and other terrorist groups). But I say just send in Russia because point out one time when the Russian has obeyed the rules of of war and the Hague(act of 1907) and Geneva(act of 1929 & revised 1949) Conventions, and plus I think Russia would like to invade Afghanistan because A) Russia would like finish off & B) Russia would have a staging point in the middle east(which would be good because then Israel would shut up because Russia hates countries & people that complain a lot)

p.s I like Obama as president of the US because he actually knows what the world needs and wants(but I don't care for humans or the world)
 

Seldon2639

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I voted no if only because your paragraph makes no sense. You have sentence fragments all over the place, and a wholesale lack of proper punctuation. I think you only have one comma in the entire thing, and no periods. I'm not usually a Grammar Nazi, but when it's so mangled as to be unintelligible, that's a bridge too far.

On to what I can best suss out as your point:

You'd like Russia to invade Afghanistan even though they lost last time (and we supplied their enemies) with something about the Hague and Geneva conventions as a reason? Even if we convince Russia to do so, why in the world would we want them to? Giving Russia more power in the world doesn't sound like a whiz-bang idea for America.
 

Thanatos34

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Seldon2639 said:
I voted no if only because your paragraph makes no sense. You have sentence fragments all over the place, and a wholesale lack of proper punctuation. I think you only have one comma in the entire thing, and no periods. I'm not usually a Grammar Nazi, but when it's so mangled as to be unintelligible, that's a bridge too far.

On to what I can best suss out as your point:

You'd like Russia to invade Afghanistan even though they lost last time (and we supplied their enemies) with something about the Hague and Geneva conventions as a reason? Even if we convince Russia to do so, why in the world would we want them to? Giving Russia more power in the world doesn't sound like a whiz-bang idea for America.
Indeed, why the heck would the US want to give Russia MORE power?
They already can do whatever the hell they want with the former satellites of the Soviet Union, and the US can't do anything about it. You want to give them a stronghold in the Middle East, too?
 

Inverse Skies

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Obama is right to send more troops into Afghanistan. Have you forgotten Russia and Georgia fighting it out last year? The US would want to avoid any of that sort of situation involving Russia once again.
 

Combined

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Don't get involved with the Soviet un Russia, because you don't want to make them strong. Trust me. Give them a good position and they'll slit your throat.
 

Knight Templar

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Yeah because the US spent the years before Taliban rule trying to get Russia out of Afghanistan, so your plan makes total sense.
 

WolfThomas

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China would be a better option, the Afghan population probably doesn't want to see Russians again. China is closer to the US and NATO than Russia.

But they may not need that many more soldiers, it takes a careful balance in peacekeeping you outnumber the population 4:1 (in the long run).
 

Samurai Goomba

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Great idea! After all, Russia have proven to be such reliable and loyal allies in the past. Also, they have a great government that rewards talent and free thinking.
 

Gladion

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Thanatos34 said:
Indeed, why the heck would the US want to give Russia MORE power?
They already can do whatever the hell they want with the former satellites of the Soviet Union, and the US can't do anything about it. You want to give them a stronghold in the Middle East, too?
Huh? Are you talking about the same good ol' Tchernobyl-like soviet technology as me? If you do, tell me what the heck you mean with "can do whatever the hell they want"? The fuck are you talking about? Please explain it to me.
 

TheEvilDuck

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America needs to stop invading places, honestly. We're already in Afghanistan, we just fucked it up and left. (Yes, the Taliban is horrible but guess what now they're back.) I totally agree with Obama putting troops in Afghanistan and stopping the drug/human trafficking, violence, and slow return of the Taliban.

Invading Russia on the other hand would invite a) a second cold war, b) an actual nuclear holocaust, and/or c) Putin to go on a Judo rampage and kill most of the world.

Putin is like a comic book villain, that is true, with his little sniveling side kick Dimitry Medvedev (although more like a believable 1900's-2000's comic book villain to Kim Jong Il's 1960's batshit comic book villain) but starting wars is rarely a good idea.
 

Thanatos34

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Gladion said:
Thanatos34 said:
Indeed, why the heck would the US want to give Russia MORE power?
They already can do whatever the hell they want with the former satellites of the Soviet Union, and the US can't do anything about it. You want to give them a stronghold in the Middle East, too?
Huh? Are you talking about the same good ol' Tchernobyl-like soviet technology as me? If you do, tell me what the heck you mean with "can do whatever the hell they want"? The fuck are you talking about? Please explain it to me.
Gladion, you've taken my post the wrong way. What I meant was this:

Russia recently invaded the country of Georgia, and basically did whatever the hell they wanted to do with it, until they decided to go back to Russia. (Not without leaving some troops behind to "keep an eye" on the Georgians.)

We can discuss whether they were right or wrong, that is not the point. The point is that, if Russia wanted to, it could retake every last one of the ex-Soviet satellites, and no one could really do anything about it.

The EU gets more than 1/3 of their oil from Russia. If they sanction Russia for the attacks, Russia cuts off their oil supply. And suddenly losing 1/3 of your oil income would be crippling.

The US does not have the manpower, especially now that we are in Iraq and Afghanistan, but even before that, to fight Russia on its own doorstep. We *might* be able to drive them out, but it would involve a loss of lives tenfold greater than what Iraq and Afghanistan have cost us.

Tchernobyl is not a good representation of what Russia is capable of now.
 

shadowstriker86

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Gaz_mcMillan said:
Now, If you have been watching the news lately them you would know that President Obama has announced that he will withdraw US forces from Iraq and put more troops in Afghanistan as part of his cunning strategy to stop the Taliban(and other terrorist groups). But I say just send in Russia because point out one time when the Russian has obeyed the rules of of war and the Hague(act of 1907) and Geneva(act of 1929 & revised 1949) Conventions, and plus I think Russia would like to invade Afghanistan because A) Russia would like finish off & B) Russia would have a staging point in the middle east(which would be good because then Israel would shut up because Russia hates countries & people that complain a lot)

p.s I like Obama as president of the US because he actually knows what the world needs and wants(but I don't care for humans or the world)
only thing i disagree with is obama himself, guy is a great speaker, but thats it. biggest way of knowing that is that he doesn't go ANYWHERE without a teleprompter
 

Ridergurl10

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Samurai Goomba said:
Great idea! After all, Russia have proven to be such reliable and loyal allies in the past. Also, they have a great government that rewards talent and free thinking.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm in that statement?