Poll: Pop Punk or New Punk?

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triggrhappy94

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I'm kind of bored, and listening to my ipod gave me the idea. So, I'm writing this thread, just to see what happens to it...

So, I noticed that I enjoy a lot of punk music, however pretty much all of it is considered New Punk (Billy Talent, some Rise Against) instead of Classic Punk (Sex Pistols). I'm wondering what the Escapist are more fond of New or Pop.
Pop Punk is of course the mutant offspring of Punk and Pop, made to appeal to "hardcore/punk" Middle Schooler (but don't let that sway you).
And New Punk is just newer bands' take on the genre, with influences of emo/goth/hardcore music.

Example of New Punk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCMx8yS7c0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNWxDa_RS6c
(^How could I forget)
Example of Pop Punk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcNiKCmWdYE
Any Greenday song ever.
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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Sober Thal said:
I'm still waiting to hear some sort of punk song. Feel free to quote me when you want to ask about punk. The 2 songs you link are 'popular' music, or pop, eh?

They sound the same to me.
Here, have some horrorpunk; it's the closest modern genre I've seen to real punk.


OT: The first band sounds like pop punk to me. The second band just sounds like pop. For the record, this is what I think of when I think of pop punk:


In any case, it's not really my style of rock. I'm more into the kind of classic rock that punk killed, as well as the kind of arena rock that grunge killed.
 

Antari

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New punk ... Thats punk?

Pop punk ... Ok ya I'm old. And Punk means a whole different thing to me. Here's an example of proper old British punk. Both of your examples don't even seem capable of burning down the hotel they are staying in.

 

Aur0ra145

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The Casualties much? or the Ramones? Rancid? Anti-Flag?

What is this then?


Or this?


Try this on for siz3... I always considered this more of a ska band.


And this? Then I'll quit.


let me know if you like any of these, I can recommend alot more music from each.
 

loc978

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Classic, and only classic. Sometimes hardcore [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TWLxCIgwE], sometimes not [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJ9xyxc-xk].
 

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Billy Talent and RA qualify as pop punk. A lot of what I listen to can qualify as pop punk as it's fairly popular for punk. NOFX, Bad Religion, a little Pennywise. If you want true new punk don't listen to your radio.

Ok, what I consider true new punk are acts like:


A nice ska influence in that one.


Gotta support my local groups
 

Aetera

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Classic punk for me, please.

Aside from the obviously-going-to-be-posted-a-million-times holy trinity of Sex Pistols, The Clash, and The Ramones, may I offer some Dead Kennedys to this thread?


That said, though, I do have to say that I am absolutely in love with Gogol Bordello's gypsy punk music.

 

Caligulust

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I'm more fond of hardcore and early post hardcore.


Post hardcore bands as of late... no, not all, ever.
 

smithy_2045

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Novs said:
The stuff OP linked is some of the worst music ever, and any band that sounds like that is a terrible band.They are a bunch of whining pop pussies.
How diplomatic of you.
 

MBergman

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A little bit of this and a little bit of that.

I listen to Bad Religion now and again but mostly newer stuff.

Goldfinger, skate/ska-punk


Of course, good old bloody Dropkick Murphy's! Folk/punk.
Best bloody band there is!


I've started listening to No use for a name as of late.
Some nice skate-punkish feel.



And of course I've got to spread some Swedish love with two classic Swedish punk bands!

First upp, Ebba Grön with Staten och Kapitalet! (The state and the capital)


And De Lyckliga Kompisarna (The Happy Friends) with Dricka sprit och hålla käften. (Drinking booze and shutting up)


I also listen quite a lot to Rise Against, but I think I saw someone else link to them so I won't.
 

Ambi

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Aetera said:
Classic punk for me, please.

Aside from the obviously-going-to-be-posted-a-million-times holy trinity of Sex Pistols, The Clash, and The Ramones, may I offer some Dead Kennedys to this thread?

This. Classic punk just seems so effortlessly impacting.

I listen to angry newer punk (Bad Religion, Anti-Flag, Rise Against, Against Me) and 80's hardcore punk (Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, and some "emocore") in small doses. I kind of don't want to always go around feeling all uptight and angsty like I want to punch everything (a bit of an exaggeration, I don't have anger issues) haha.

As for pop punk, I like Be Your Own Pet and Green Day. All the "poseur punk" pop-rock like Blink 182 and Good Charlotte is fun nostalgic music but it still seems all corporate and everything. As for the new new pop rock the OP mentioned, *yawn*

Idk, there are a whole lot of bands in between that can't be fit into the three choices.
 

Keava

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Allow me to stick to more classic punk. Bands like GreenDay or Blink 182 never appealed to me, Billy Talent doesn't sound like punk-rock at all. I was growing up on stuff like Buzzcocks, The Stranglers, Joy Division, The Clash, DOA, Sex Pistols and The Exploited, that's pretty much what defines punkrock for me.

The whole skater-punk that happened... not my kind of music.
 

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The only "pop punk" bands that I can stand are CLASSIC Greenday and Weezer (the Blue Album and Pinkerton were two of my favourite albums as a teenager and I still think that they are great).

Fucked Up are the only punk band from recent years that seem to have captured the feeling of classic hardcore, not only in the sound, but also by being inventive, not doing the whole "punk by numbers" thing which so many bands fall victim of.


Future of the Left are worth checking out if you like the sound of Gang of Four (and if you haven't heard of Gang of Four, go educate yourself).


I would also suggest people check out the Hold Steady, who combine classic punk with classic rock and some of the best lyrics I've heard this decade.


Other than that, I don't see that much interesting punk at the moment. I love the classic stuff from the 70s and 80s (I'd suggest anyone that wants to know what true punk is about should read Our Band Could be Your Life by Michael Arrezad, which documents most of the major names in the underground scene in America in the 80s). However, nowadays I listen mostly to the indie rock that it transformed into between the 90s and now, it still maintains most of the influences of classic punk, hardcore and post-punk which maintaining the innovation that kept those genres interesting.