Poll: Portal Phrase Turned into Atheist Metaphor

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Zeroththeking

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I was thinking about this while I was at school. Don't ask how I got these two ideas mixed up. But as you know, I am one of the few people that have gone on the, "Wanted to have faith, but lost it due to the sheer ignorance of the religious people around me" Road, if that is an actual road. But due to this, I thought about both Portal, and The Bible.

"The Cake is a lie" Can be a metaphor for an atheist if you put it in the right way. Lets break down the phrase so it makes sense.

The cake is a lie, is basically a phrase that means, "Your goal is merely a fictitious motivator", and it was obvious, since you were only given cake to get from point A (beginning of the game) to point B (End game). Although the walls within one of the test chambers said that the cake was a lie, you went through the game anyway, (see a pattern?)

Since we are using the english language, and since it becomes a metaphor, you can change up the words simply and have the phrase be of actual meaning to atheists (people who dont believe in god).

The Bible, (or any religious book for that matter), have been motivators throughout the millennia, making people establish religions and forcing people to turn into their religion and bash any other religion other then their own. Lets switch Bible with Cake

The Bible is a lie.

Now this can be a simple phrase to utter, but cannot be an actual truth until we find some actual way to prove that the bible doesn't exist, (other then all the other obvious ones that got religious people completely ignorant). But can there be such a metaphor or such a comparison created for two completely different things? Possibly.

But if you are religious and are shaking your head in disapproval right now, but are a really big Portal fan, (This is to the what, 6 people out in the world?), think of it this way, if we use the same phrase.

Atheism is a lie.

Are you sure? Atheism was not as much motivating as any of the other religions were, since Atheists were not begging to burn witches, or create churches in their religious honor, (at least around the 1800s, I haven't seen an atheist church but tell me if they actually exist), so due to the phrase, you can think that Atheism has a less chance of being Cake aka a lie, then Christianity does. But also once Atheism is proven to be fictitious, then Atheism becomes cake.

Therefore the percentage of Atheism being a lie (just by using this phrase and no other form of hypothesis) is lower then the chance of Christianity or any other religion being a lie, since those religions already are filling the cake up and putting it in the oven. When it is proven ficticious, then there is the icing on the cake, (no pun intended). Either way, there is your weird metaphor that I just thought up. I have no idea if this is logical or not, but its a thought to toil around in the back of your brain. Its been 5 hours and I still don't know.

I still look to the flying spaghetti monster to save us, with his noodley appendages. RAmen. (If only I was serious)










Edit: Do take note that this is a hypothesis made out of a video game phrase, not a total comment that is saying that Religion is a lie. Im trying to make people think, in a weird metaphoric way. And the bible is a lie, means what is in the bible is a lie, not the actual book that you can buy or get from a swap meet. Or take out of a church.



Internet Kraken:
But in Portal, the cake wasn't a lie. You see the cake at the end of the game. So comparing the cake to the bible suggests that the bible is not a lie.

Me:
Interesting point. Was the cake ever given? Was there ever a picture of cake? An actual video picture taken of the cake so that Chell could see it? Its a metaphor, for the both of them are that much the same. Im not saying anything its a lie, im proposing a theory off of Portal, and proposing how much free time I have.
 

initialdelay

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Interesting theory! Although you could put a whole mountain range of other concepts in (materialism perhaps? Or military service? Or government?), it made me think.

RAmen to you :p
 

Zeroththeking

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xmetatr0nx said:
Shouldnt you be focusing on school work? Unless you are there to waste time thinking about things about video games...in that case go nuts.
I finished my homework when I thought this. This is off topic, so its in off topic =P
 

Zenode

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Why are you thinking of this instead of schoolwork at school lol just kidding

You could use that simply with anything.

The Universe is a lie

try disproving that
 

Lord_Ascendant

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agnosticism is saying "We'll find out eventually" Atheism is saying there is something there to deny. Thus Atheists do believe in God. I blow your mind? If there was nothing to refute, then Atheists wouldn't exist they would just be people.

/bows
 
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Zeroththeking said:
xmetatr0nx said:
Shouldnt you be focusing on school work? Unless you are there to waste time thinking about things about video games...in that case go nuts.
I finished my homework when I thought this. This is off topic, so its in off topic =P
With a brain that wide-ranging, I'd make notes for a book. You could be a self-help millionaire by the time you leave school :)
 

Internet Kraken

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But in Portal, the cake wasn't a lie. You see the cake at the end of the game. So comparing the cake to the Bible suggests that the Bible is not a lie.
 

benylor

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The cake is symbolic of any empty promise of reward. It could be a metaphor for unrequited love, for the non-existance of afterlife (of one form or another), it could be a metaphor for Communism, it could be anything.

It's a useful tool to help structure an argument in your own thoughts (provided of course that you don't specifically refer to cake in your argument, because then you won't be taken seriously), but you can't tie it to one particular meaning.
 

fix-the-spade

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Perhaps, but really, why does religion (or the paradoxical religion of not having a religion) have to pervade every aspect of society and story telling.

Bloody faith(/less) types ruin everything for everyonem why can't you all just stop the theorising and wait to die like everything else!?
 

Zeroththeking

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Internet Kraken said:
But in Portal, the cake wasn't a lie. You see the cake at the end of the game. So comparing the cake to the bible suggests that the bible is not a lie.
Interesting point. Was the cake ever given? Was there ever a picture of cake? An actual video picture taken of the cake so that Chell could see it? Its a metaphor, for the both of them are that much the same. Im not saying anything its a lie, im proposing a theory off of Portal, and proposing how much free time I have.
 

j0z

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You could put about anything in for "cake", and it will make no more sense or no less sense.
These are my thoughts:
Religious people can't prove their religion.
Atheists can't prove Atheism.
Now, let's just respect other people's opinions and go about our merry lives, without trying to convince people you are right and they are wrong. okay?
 

Gerazzi

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errr...
Sorry, but this makes no freaking sense.

Or rather it does, but in context it makes you sound like an idiot.
There is no proof or disproof of a god or religion in general. Thank you and good night.
 

cuddly_tomato

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j0z said:
You could put about anything in for "cake", and it will make no more sense or no less sense.
These are my thoughts:
Religious people can't prove their religion.
Atheists can't prove Atheism.
Now, let's just respect other people's opinions and go about our merry lives, without trying to convince people you are right and they are wrong. okay?
Please, run for president. Or at least something like that.
 

benylor

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Lord_Ascendant said:
agnosticism is saying "We'll find out eventually" Atheism is saying there is something there to deny. Thus Atheists do believe in God. I blow your mind? If there was nothing to refute, then Atheists wouldn't exist they would just be people.

/bows
Not quite, sir.

I don't believe in unicorns,
I don't believe in miasma,
I don't believe in the Earth being flat,

I don't believe in God's existance.

There. Now, your last part - that Atheists would just be people - is correct. Atheists are just people. It's followers of religion who are saying there exists a god. Atheism only exists as a label because of theism.

Look at the roots of the word. "A-theism", meaning without religion. You are confusing it with a more militant "fuck God!" philosophy. Possibly Stoic, but I don't really know.

Does this help?
 

shansta619

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wow, i never thought of it that way. very good points. i guess in a metaphorical sense it fits nearly perfectly
 

Internet Kraken

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Zeroththeking said:
Internet Kraken said:
But in Portal, the cake wasn't a lie. You see the cake at the end of the game. So comparing the cake to the bible suggests that the bible is not a lie.
Interesting point. Was the cake ever given? Was there ever a picture of cake? An actual video picture taken of the cake so that Chell could see it? Its a metaphor, for the both of them are that much the same. Im not saying anything its a lie, im proposing a theory off of Portal, and proposing how much free time I have.
Yes, there was a cake. Just because Chell didn't see the cake doesn't mean it didn't exist. But that's another reason why your comparison makes no sense. Up until the end of the game the player doesn't think the cake is real because you never see it. But we all know the Bible is real. We've all seen the Bible.
 

Kuchinawa212

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I always thought of it three ways: Liar, Loony, or Lord. Either it's all a lie and we've been fooled all this time. A few people that were messed up in the head and wrote it all down and thought it was real. Or it is real and we praise him as our lord.

See simple XD