Poll: Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 Over Modern warfare 2?

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kidwithxboxlive

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Rainbow 6 vegas 2, as you know, is a oldish game. Its not new like mdw2 but its not like like cod 2. Now, you can pick this game up somewere within the reigon on 5-10 pound/ 10-20 dollars (if my currency is right).
I stopped playing vegas just to start playing it again with some friends. I swear to god, it is MUCH MUCH better than mdw2. You can go into cover, range of weapons, UMP looks awesome (sorry mdw2 it is quite shitty in your game). And you heat thermal along with squad commands.

I know im writing this like the games about to come out but does anyone feel the same as i do towards this game? I might be the only one but fuck me, it is fun
 

JourneyThroughHell

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No, not really. It's not that good.

The game has a severe case of identity crisis, because it tries to be a realistic shooter, yet it has the 3rd person cover vision, health regeneration and blindfire.

It's a good game, sure, but it doesn't know what it wants to be, the campaign is pretty good and the terrorist hunt missions are cool, but they have nothing on spec ops.

Also, VS threads are frowned upon, especially when the games in question are so different. Just saying.
 

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Yes, it's one of my favourite games of all time

I love the way you can take situation, how it's more based on tactics than shooting ridiculously quickly. How not thinking and having some common sense could keep you alive. It was a genuine intelligent shooter that didn't involve puzzles.

I've beaten the single player about 10 times on the hardest difficulty, getting through without dying once. The weapons were all well balanced and fun to use. Sure it's a bit old, graphics are a bit shit but it's a million times better than MW2

I also despise
 

kidwithxboxlive

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JourneyThroughHell said:
No, not really. It's not that good.

The game has a severe case of identity crisis, because it tries to be a realistic shooter, yet it has the 3rd person cover vision, health regeneration and blindfire.

It's a good game, sure, but it doesn't know what it wants to be, the campaign is pretty good and the terrorist hunt missions are cool, but they have nothing on spec ops.

Also, VS threads are frowned upon, especially when the games in question are so different. Just saying.
Then again, the point your arguing is what modern warfare has. 3rd person cover Helps. Health regeneration (modern warfare included). BLIND FIRE IS REALISTIC. YOUR UNDER FIRE FROM PEOPLE SO YOU BLIND FIRE AT THEM AND HOPE TO HIT THEM OR SUPRES THEM.
So, read up on your facts BEFORe you make a point like that
 

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Sorry, but the Rainbow Six franchise was turned to shit by the Vegas games.

Rogue Spear + several weapon and performance mods is the pinnacle of tactical shooters.
 

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I love it. My brother hates it.

It's a pity, because R6:V2 is great when played split-screen.
 

JourneyThroughHell

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kidwithxboxlive said:
Then again, the point your arguing is what modern warfare has. 3rd person cover Helps. Health regeneration (modern warfare included). BLIND FIRE IS REALISTIC. YOUR UNDER FIRE FROM PEOPLE SO YOU BLIND FIRE AT THEM AND HOPE TO HIT THEM OR SUPRES THEM.
So, read up on your facts BEFORe you make a point like that
One - there is no cover system in MW2, but, even if there were, that doesn't change the fact that Modern Warfare does not aim for the realism that Vegas aims for. It's a glorified action flick.

The blind fire in Vegas is not realistic. You have a reticle that shows where you are likely to shoot and, oh, you can see enemies while not facing them.

Blind fire is supposed to be blind.

My point still stands. Vegas 2 is Rainbow Six merged with something completely different, and that makes it lose a lot of the charm of the previous installments.

It's not Rainbow Six 3. Hell, it's not even Swat 4 (which is a far more realistic game from a fairly similar genre).
 

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They are both different games, there can't be a "Better" one.

Sometimes I prefer playing MW2 style games, in which I can go on the hardest difficulty and rambo through and beat the game (While ill...) or go online and get completely owned by people who know every inch of the maps and have all the weapons and perks to choose from because they have been playing a while.

Other times I prefer the slower pace of Rainbow Six, using situational awareness and a more tactical approach to things or again, go online and get spawncamped by people who know the maps and spawns and spam grenades all over the place...

I prefer Rainbow Six, because I actually replay that game wheras MW2 I finished the single player (And challenges that I could do solo) went online got to level 4 and haven't touched it since.
 

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I thought Vegas 1 was better than Vegas 2, and my god Vegas 2 was an ugly fuck.

Other than shooting, they don't really have that much in common, so it's more a matter of what genre you prefer as to what game.
 

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They're both very different games. I find MW2 more fun but that's just because I've played more of it. I can't believe you can R6V2 it for that cheap. When I see it I'll believe it. It's kinda appalling that such a good game should drop so much in popularity that it's only selling for that much, while COD4 is still selling for $80 brand new, minimum
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
No, not really. It's not that good.

The game has a severe case of identity crisis, because it tries to be a realistic shooter, yet it has the 3rd person cover vision, health regeneration and blindfire.

It's a good game, sure, but it doesn't know what it wants to be, the campaign is pretty good and the terrorist hunt missions are cool, but they have nothing on spec ops.

Also, VS threads are frowned upon, especially when the games in question are so different. Just saying.
It could be argued that third-person is closer to the full visual range of a healthy human being than the traditional FPS camera is, we don't view the back of our own heads, granted, but we also don't look at the world in a narrow line.

Regenrating health exists to remove tedium, if you didn't have it you'd just load your game until you did whatever you were trying to do, anyway.
 

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Its one of my favourite games, well... Its certainly my favourite shooter. Ive played through it a million times, all the terrorist hunts and even still play the online, which is more than can be said for mw2 which i traded in, and i was so bored with the online i only got to level 25ish.
 

JourneyThroughHell

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Booze Zombie said:
It could be argued that third-person is closer to the full visual range of a healthy human being than the traditional FPS camera is, we don't view the back of our own heads, granted, but we also don't look at the world in a narrow line.
You haven't played Vegas, have you?

It's an FPS. The only TPS part of it, for example, when you hugh a wall near a doorway, you can see through the doorway without you actually getting your head there.

Booze Zombie said:
Regenrating health exists to remove tedium, if you didn't have it you'd just load your game until you did whatever you were trying to do, anyway.
I have nothing against regenerating health. I just don't think it suits Rainbow Six.
 

Booze Zombie

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JourneyThroughHell said:
You haven't played Vegas, have you?

It's an FPS. The only TPS part of it, for example, when you hugh a wall near a doorway, you can see through the doorway without you actually getting your head there.
I have, actually.

I think third-person is one of the few ways you can accurately represent a human peeking around a corner without making the player fiddle about with a controller for half an hour.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
JourneyThroughHell said:
You haven't played Vegas, have you?

It's an FPS. The only TPS part of it, for example, when you hugh a wall near a doorway, you can see through the doorway without you actually getting your head there.
I have, actually.

I think third-person is one of the few ways you can accurately represent a human peeking around a corner without making the player fiddle about with a controller for half an hour.
But, the thing is, he's not peeking around the corner.

The enemies can't see him. It's a legitimized wallhack basically.

Old FPSes used leaning for that. I think it's far more sensible.
 

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Nope, I still prefer MW2 over R6V2 (if that's what it is like shortened down).

I dunno, I just do better and much prefer it.
 

Booze Zombie

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JourneyThroughHell said:
But, the thing is, he's not peeking around the corner.

The enemies can't see him. It's a legitimized wallhack basically.

Old FPSes used leaning for that. I think it's far more sensible.
Problem is, on consoles at least, the buttons that would be good for leaning around corners in the "I'm looking directly ahead, screw anything not in front of me" view mode are taken up with other functions.