Poll: shapeshifter porn

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balanovich

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This comes from an amusing drunken discussion that I will spare you.

If doppelgängers, shapeshifters, people who can take anyone's appearance or create a new one, existed, should they be allowed to use their powers to do porn?

A doppelgänger could take JeniferLopez or Meagan fox's apperance and perform as a porn star. It would more or less be an identity theft, but it would be hot. Should it be legal?

What about dead people? Like Cleopatra or .... another dead famous hottie? If the person's dead, it doesn't destroyed a living person's image and reputation ?

And what about children? A Doppelgänger could take the form of a 7 years old getting her cherry popped in a dirty gangbang... definitely gross and wrong a first thought.... but the actual person is a 30 years old, professional porn star so there is no real innocence destroyed. Should that be legal ?

3 questions with 2 possible answers..... I can fit it all into one poll.
The choices are in the following order:
Living person -- Dead famous person -- Children

So the choice yes-no-yes would mean YES to porn with an actual person's appearance, NO to dead people's appearance and YES to porn with the boy of a child.
 

Andrewtheeviscerator

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Strange topic but I'll bite

Yes to living people because your not really hurting anyone I suppose, I can't see it being to offensive to someone who is still alive just awkward to say the least.

No to dead people because it's disrespectful to their families and their memories. No one would want to see a person pretending to be their dead mother getting banged.

No to being children because even though they're not a child its still the only people that would take interest in that would be a pedophile and you would just be feeding his fantasy and tempting him, so its still wrong.
 

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Well, you can have look alikes and so on as it is, nothing illegal there.

Porn of someone that looks like a kid would be illegal where I live as it is.

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I'd thought of something like this before, what about someone that became a vampire at 12, a few decades ago? Are they forever underage, or what?

(You could argue that they'd not develop properly, and be a 12 year old forever, I guess)
 

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...you know, this question seems like it should be easy but damn it, I'm kind of stumped.

Living Person: Does the Doppelganger have permission to do this? It's easy to say that it's not hurting anyone until "Super Gay Gang Bang 7" starring Tippy2K2 comes out and I'm stuck explaining why it is that I'm appearing in a gay orgy...

Dead Person: I actually think this would be less of a problem than the living person. We know that Marilyn Monroe is dead so her appearing in a porno would be a minimal problem (barring rights, I'm sure SOMEONE owns the image of MM).

Child: This kind of delves into the "Drawn Kiddy Porn" issue in that there is no harm coming to children (the primary reason for underage porn laws). I'm conflicted on the drawn stuff just like I'm conflicted on this issue.

Ultimately, I'm taking the cowards way out and not voting. Take THAT society!

EDIT: Actually, I kind of changed my mind and have a question. Is this doppelganger performing with the name of the famous person or are they going to just look like them? If they are going by the alive/dead persons name, then No. If they are going by a stage name (so basically a look-alike like Scarlett Fay for Lindsay Lohan), that's just fine. Still taking coward's way out about the kiddy stuff.
 

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balanovich said:
A doppelganger could take Jennifer Lopez's or Megan Fox's appearance and perform as a porn star.
A star's image is part of his business. It is what he banks on. Mel Gibson is a fine actor and a pretty decent storyteller, but he's probably done in Hollywood because of the damage done to his image (self-inflicted, but still). If someone starts stealing the image of stars to use against their will, that damages the livelihoods of those people, and all for the sake of live-action slashfic. It is unconscionable.

balanovich said:
What about dead people?
I'm sure Heath Ledger's family would love to know that since he's dead now, skinchangers are going to be using his face in porn.

balanovich said:
And what about children?
Ethically, I find this proposition the most acceptable; roleplaying is a way for people to act out deviant fantasies without anyone getting hurt. Viscerally, I find it completely repulsive and am willing to outlaw it just based on the eeeeew factor.
 

balanovich

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Andrewtheeviscerator said:
No to dead people because it's disrespectful to their families and their memories. No one would want to see a person pretending to be their dead mother getting banged.
So it's only disrespectful if the person is dead ? Would you like to see someone pretending to be your LIVING grandmother getting banged ?
(lol, Captcha "Bone dry")


tippy2k2 said:
Is this doppelganger performing with the name of the famous person or are they going to just look like them? If they are going by the alive/dead persons name, then No. If they are going by a stage name (so basically a look-alike like Scarlett Fay for Lindsay Lohan), that's just fine.
When a doppelganger takes someone's appearance, it's perfect, to the last detail/defect. Like a copy paste. So you would get to see Sarah Palin actual pussy. ( If you really want to)
As for the name talking... I don't know. It doesn't matter the faces would be recognisable and there is no question regarding the person's identity.

12 year old vampires become legal 6 years after the got bit. It's how old you truly are,not how old you look. If not it would ok to bang those kids with the ageing disease... wow, I just grossed myself out!
 

Andrewtheeviscerator

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balanovich said:
Andrewtheeviscerator said:
No to dead people because it's disrespectful to their families and their memories. No one would want to see a person pretending to be their dead mother getting banged.
So it's only disrespectful if the person is dead ? Would you like to see someone pretending to be your LIVING grandmother getting banged ?
(lol, Captcha "Bone dry")


Alright I'll change that a bit. If the living person agrees to it then it's acceptable. A dead person cannot choose whether or not they want their image used in that manner so it shouldn't be done.
 

Don Savik

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Good thing shapeshifters don't exist because everyone would be opposed to all three XD

1. I doubt a porn star using someone else's identity in a porn to be sold for profit has good respectful intentions. Hell, they might even claim its the real celebrity just for the sales. It IS a business after all, why would they use a celebrity's body in the first place?

2. Same as the first

3. I would allow it if it was in the context of their own house, but since this is about porn then the answer is no, as it would serve only to indulge pedophiles. And I guess you could say "but it isn't hurting any REAL children" but its still creating a market and is feeding the demand.
 

Rowan93

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In all cases "this is a shapeshifter, not a real X" should be made clear. There should be legal disclaimers right next to wherever it says all performers are 18 or over at the time of filming.

You would also have more data kept, because in a world with shapeshifters you will inevitably get shapeshifter celebrities, many of which will not be in porn, and if a shapeshifter pornstar claims to be a different shapeshifter, who has an image to protect, that has to be prevented as well.

Come to think of it, we'll need to invent a kind of ID the shapeshifters can't fake, too, because otherwise they couldn't even be in porn, since they could actually be 15 after all.

Yeah, a world with shapeshifters will be quite different. I picked yes-yes-yes, but only with the caveats mentioned above, and it varies a lot with various things about shapeshifting and how many shifters there are.
 

somonels

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Where is the NO-NO-YES option, huh?
Shapeshifting is ID theft so n-n-n.

captcha: underpants
 

Some_weirdGuy

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Isn't a adult whose body looks like that of a child called a midget?


and it's certainly an interesting question. I mean at first i think no to all, but then you already have people that look like celebrities or other things, and i'm sure there's probably a bunch of porn featuring people like that, yet that shouldn't be illegal just cause they happen to look similar to someone else.


It's almost the same as asking whether an identical twin should be allowed to do porn if their brother/sister doesn't want them to. I mean when you think about it they have no right to deny them it.


still, with shape shifters it's purposely trying to look like the other person... I think I'll leave my answer as a resounding 'I dunno'.
 

Wintermoot

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wouldn't you run into licensing issues?
as for your question
YES-YES-NO since you can't be sure with the kid
 

ShindoL Shill

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Well, you do get people who look like celebrities. So... I see no reason for that to be wrong.

I don't see why someone who's in the body of a 7 year old should be allowed to do porn. I mean, what's to stop people using regular 7-year-olds and pretending they're shapeshifters?
 

Hiroshi Mishima

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Honestly, I thought this was going to be different, although I'm not sure why.

I was initially thinking this would be like "if you had a lover who could take on any shape, would you do it with people you don't know?" kind of thing. I was going to answer Sure, because it's just me and someone I like helping to fulfill whatever fantasy I might have. I wasn't going to get into the fact that the shapeshifter might not even HAVE their own form or identity, cause I remember how Red Dwarf handled that and wow hideous.

As to the actual poll you DID present.. in regards to the porn industry.. I ain't touching this with a 50 foot pole. I dislike the industry in general, so I'm not the kinda person to ask. Heh, maybe if I got it more regularly I'd feel differently. :p
 

Bloodstain

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NO-NO-YES.

Famous people: This is about the same as posting nude pictures of them on the internet. People can see them naked. I know, it's not actually them...but then everyone would know how that actual, real person looks naked. Personally, I wouldn't want that. I don't want people knowing how I look without clothes on, even if I'm not there at the moment. It's a matter of privacy.

Dead people: See above. I don't want people seeing me naked after my death, either.

Children: That I am fine with, as long as the shapeshifters generate random children, and not actual specific children (in which case: See above). Actually, I am fine with the shapeshifters generating any kind of random or designed person (someone could say "Okay, I want you with red hair, light skin, etc. etc. etc.). Actually, it doesn't even need to be a person, they could transform into anything and I would be okay with it. However, once they transform into an existing person, that person's privacy is breached.

Captcha: hands down
 

Klagermeister

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YES YES NO. As long as the video assures people it's not the real thing in all cases, or the person being imitated (or their estate in the case of dead people) recieves royalties from the videos.
But definitely not kids. That's a nasty thought.

 

Shinsei-J

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I'm fine with any of these but the child one, so long as they don't claim to be the original.
 

Bloodstain

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Another thought: Instead of mere shapeshifter porn, I propose a shapeshifter brothel.