Poll: Should our species be exempt from culling?

[Murray Whitwell]

As the most destructive species on the planet, why are we not taking more drastic measures to lower our population? We're quick to kill thousands of animals for overpopulating, yet they aren't nearly as dangerous to the planet's wellbeing as we are.
Are we collectively too arrogant to see how disgusting our species really is?

 

[SonofaJohannes]

World War 3 is the answer to that problem.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Culling? That's sick. I'm all for cutting back on reproduction, but outright murder is just disgusting.

 

[loc978]

Culling? That's sick. I'm all for cutting back on reproduction, but outright murder is just disgusting.

not murder... mass-murder. That makes it alright.
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[Bobbity]

You'll be pressed to find a species that actively culls itself...

We definitely need to stop the massive population growth we've got going on, but I'm thinking that prevention is a somewhat better means than genocide.

We're quick to kill thousands of animals for overpopulating, yet they aren't nearly as dangerous to the planet's wellbeing as we are.

We don't cull animals for "the planet's wellbeing", whatever that might be.

We cull animals for the wellbeing of things we happen to care about, ie, our own.

Pretty much this. We are essentially just selfish bastards, after all

 

[Thaluikhain]

We're quick to kill thousands of animals for overpopulating, yet they aren't nearly as dangerous to the planet's wellbeing as we are.

We don't cull animals for "the planet's wellbeing", whatever that might be.

We cull animals for the wellbeing of things we happen to care about, ie, our own.

Oh, and there's sort of an anthropic principle here. Anyone who posts in this thread has, by definition, not killed themselves for this or any other reason. So most people here would be against culling, I would say.

 

[Miles000]

World War 3 is the answer to that problem.

I actually agree with you there. At least it's 'justified' as opposed to just say nuking a densely populated country.

 

[Sarge034]

As the most destructive species on the planet, why are we not taking more drastic measures to lower our population? We're quick to kill thousands of animals for overpopulating, yet they aren't nearly as dangerous to the planet's wellbeing as we are.
Are we collectively too arrogant to see how disgusting our species really is?

I think you need to define culling. If you are talking about the extermination of humans you need to seek help. If you are talking about limiting child births and such... well people are arrogant, selfish, stupid, and unwilling to work for the greater good.


I think our biggest problem is that we killed natural selection.

 

[Merkavar]

my understanding is that we cull animals cause they are overpopulating and causing issues for humans. like destroying the enviroment, killing livestock, destroying crops.

so how do we decide which humans to kill to stop them causing issues for other humans when they live in the same area etc. with animals we dont care about individuals but with humans we do.

 

[Deadyawn]

Culling? That's sick. I'm all for cutting back on reproduction, but outright murder is just disgusting.

Especially poingant cos your avatar is mordin solus.

OT: The problem is that the logical desision would be to kill all the people who said it would be a good idea which really disuades any argument on the topic.
So yeah this kind of a case of NIMBY (not in my back yard) You could very well say that you thought it was a good idea but most people would immediately then say "as long as it's not me". Pretty much anybody thats willing to kill themselves to help with overpopulation already has, so this kind of policy wouldn't get many votes.

 

[Choppaduel]

World War 3 is the answer to that problem.

Wrong. That would deplete resources & destroy a great deal more. The entire idea behind culling the population is that there isn't enough to go around; that resources are being drained to quickly because theres too many people.

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The ideal way to do this is the Mass Effect way, engineer a virus/bacteria/etc that makes breading much more difficult.

Realistically, and sadly, the Chinese method is the best option I can think of.

 

[Madman123456]

I am rather tired of these human=monster BS. That has been crammed in *everywhere* again and again. It's like some humans hate their own Species for some reason.
See the "Matrix" movie. The good one. Agent smith has Morpheus captured and explains that every species on this Planet forms a natural Balance with its Environment except for two species, which would be a virus (which is not "a" "Species") and Humans. "Humans are like a Cancer to this Planet!" Smith explains, although a virus has very little to do with Cancer.

Well, "WRONG!". No Species on this Planet "naturally forms" any sort of Balance. They meat, they fuck and sometimes they get eaten. If they need more food then the habitat they live in has to offer, they will die out.
Many Animals have fewer offspring when food is scarce, but if a Plant or something that they eat is slowly dying out there will be nothing done about it to consume less of this Plant unless it is already scarce.

There is a natural Balance; Species which couldn't fit into it went extinct. If a Species becomes dominant enough to decimate their own Food source in their habitat (maybe even without humans interfering. Gasp!) they will do so. If their Habitat is so large that the extinction of their food plants will affect the planet, the animals will not have any trouble eating that Plant until it is no longer there.

We are the only species with some Specimen that try to do something about a Balance with their Environment.

Every other Species is like a Virus. If there's nothing there to keep their Population in check, they will procreate until there's no food left and they will have no choice but to move away and eat in another Area. Happened many times even without human intervention.

So some of us Humans are the exception to every single living thing who will consume resources with no care for what comes after them.

 

[Jonluw]

Same reason why we mostly aren't cannibals, I'm guessing. We only have sympathy for our own species. Killing off other humans goes against our basic instincts.

 

[Jonluw]

The ideal way to do this is the Mass Effect way, engineer a virus/bacteria/etc that makes breading much more difficult.

Have you seen that George Carlin routine?

"What would the earth do if it was trying to get rid of us? Hmmm, viruses, they seem to vulnerable to those... And let's make it spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to breed. Hmm, perhaps something that attacks their immune system, making them vulnerable to anything else that might come along."

 

[Thaluikhain]

See the "Matrix" movie. The good one. Agent smith has Morpheus captured and explains that every species on this Planet forms a natural Balance with its Environment except for two species, which would be a virus (which is not "a" "Species") and Humans. "Humans are like a Cancer to this Planet!" Smith explains, although a virus has very little to do with Cancer.

Well, in that example, Smith was saying that to get the guy pumped full of drugs to crack faster. I don't mind people spouting such bullshit when they are obviously lying to someone who isn't in a position to think clearly. Also, it helps that Hugo Weaving says it.

[small]Though, as I understand it, a creaute won't have less children if there is less food, merely less children will survive and less pregnancies will come to term[/small]

 

[Choppaduel]

The ideal way to do this is the Mass Effect way, engineer a virus/bacteria/etc that makes breading much more difficult.

Have you seen that George Carlin routine?

"What would the earth do if it was trying to get rid of us? Hmmm, viruses, they seem to vulnerable to those... And let's make it spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to breed. Hmm, perhaps something that attacks their immune system, making them vulnerable to anything else that might come along."

The problem with with that virus is that it kills the person rather than keeping them from reproducing.

Have you played mass effect, btw?

 

[Jonluw]

The ideal way to do this is the Mass Effect way, engineer a virus/bacteria/etc that makes breading much more difficult.

Have you seen that George Carlin routine?

"What would the earth do if it was trying to get rid of us? Hmmm, viruses, they seem to vulnerable to those... And let's make it spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to breed. Hmm, perhaps something that attacks their immune system, making them vulnerable to anything else that might come along."

The problem with with that virus is that it kills the person rather than keeping them from reproducing.

Have you played mass effect, btw?

Nope.

 

[Murray Whitwell]

Culling? That's sick. I'm all for cutting back on reproduction, but outright murder is just disgusting.

Why is it any more wrong than killing any other species? That is the big point of my question. What makes us so special? For hundreds of millions of years, animals have lived harmoniously with the planet. In all that time, we are the only species to be aiding in the planets destruction. Why are we so deserving of existence but other more respectable species aren't?

 

[Revolutionary]

You're treading in very ambiguous waters when you say "Culling". If you mean it in the eugenics sense, then yes, that's abominable. If you just mean that are we exempt in the Darwinian sense then no we are not.