Poll: So Escapist, Whats your morality?

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StormShaun

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So whats your morality escapist, good, evil or neutral, Lawful or chaotic.
It can be in games, real life or in D&D.

Im somewhere in between Lawful and Neutral good, I call it Independent good. (as it says on my profile)

Ill list the descriptions of each one.

If you know what you are just vote and comment.
Lawful Good

Lawful Good is known as the "Saintly" or "Crusader" alignment. A Lawful Good character typically acts with compassion, and always with honor and a sense of duty. A Lawful Good nation would consist of a well-organized government that works for the benefit of its citizens. Lawful Good characters include righteous knights, paladins, and most dwarves. Lawful Good creatures include the noble golden dragons. Lawful Good outsiders are known as Archons.

Lawful Good characters, especially paladins, may sometimes find themselves faced with the dilemma of whether to obey law or good when the two conflict?for example, upholding a sworn oath when it would lead innocents to come to harm?or conflicts between two orders, such as between their religious law and the law of the local ruler.

In the Complete Scoundrel sourcebook Batman, Dick Tracy and Indiana Jones are cited as examples of lawful good characters


Neutral Good

Neutral Good is known as the "Benefactor" alignment. A Neutral Good character is guided by his conscience and typically acts altruistically, without regard for or against Lawful precepts such as rules or tradition. A Neutral Good character has no problems with co-operating with lawful officials, but does not feel beholden to them. In the event that doing the right thing requires the bending or breaking of rules, they do not suffer the same inner conflict that a Lawful Good character would.

Examples of Neutral Good characters include Zorro, and Spider-Man.[7] The Neutral Good outsiders are known as Guardinals.

Chaotic Good

Chaotic Good is known as the "Beatific," "Rebel," or "Cynic" alignment. A Chaotic Good character favors change for a greater good, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom, not only for oneself, but for others as well. They always intend to do the right thing, but their methods are generally disorganized and often out of alignment with the rest of society. They may create conflict in a team if they feel they are being pushed around, and often view extensive organization and planning as pointless, preferring to improvise.

Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica, and Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly are examples of Chaotic Good individuals.[7] Eladrin are the outsider race representing Chaotic Good

Lawful Neutral

Lawful Neutral is called the "Judge" or "Disciplined" alignment. A Lawful Neutral character typically believes strongly in Lawful concepts such as honor, order, rules and tradition, and often follows a personal code. A Lawful Neutral society would typically enforce strict laws to maintain social order, and place a high value on traditions and historical precedent. Examples of Lawful Neutral characters might include a soldier who always follows orders, a judge or enforcer that adheres mercilessly to the word of the law, and a disciplined monk.

Characters of this alignment are neutral with regard to good and evil. This does not mean that Lawful Neutral characters are amoral or immoral, or do not have a moral compass, but simply that their moral considerations come a distant second to what their code, tradition, or law dictates. They typically have a strong ethical code, but it is primarily guided by their system of belief, not by a commitment to good or evil.

James Bond, Odysseus, and Sanjuro from Yojimbo are considered by Complete Scoundrel as Lawful Neutral.[7] Three exemplars of Lawful Neutral outsiders exist. These are the Formians, the Inevitables and the Modrons.

Neutral

Neutral alignment, also referred to as True Neutral or Neutral Neutral, is called the "Undecided" or "Nature's" alignment. This alignment represents Neutral on both axes, and tends not to feel strongly towards any alignment. A farmer whose primary overriding concern is to feed his family is of this alignment. Most animals, lacking the capacity for moral judgment, are of this alignment. Many roguish characters who play all sides to suit themselves are also of this alignment.

Some Neutral characters, rather than feeling undecided, are committed to a balance between the alignments. They may see good, evil, law and chaos as simply prejudices and dangerous extremes. Mordenkainen is one such character who takes this concept to the extreme, dedicating himself to a detached philosophy of neutrality to ensure that no one alignment or power takes control of the Flanaess.

Druids frequently follow this True Neutral dedication to balance, and under Advanced Dungeons & Dragons rules were required to be this alignment. In an example given in the 2nd Edition Player's Handbook, a typical druid might fight against a band of marauding gnolls, only to switch sides to save the gnolls' clan from being totally exterminated.[8]

Lara Croft, Lucy Westenra from Dracula and Han Solo in his early Star Wars appearance are neutral.[7] The true neutral outsiders are known as the Rilmani.

Chaotic Neutral

Chaotic Neutral is called the "Anarchist" or "Free Spirit" alignment. A character of this alignment is an individualist who follows his or her own heart, and generally shirks rules and traditions. Although they promote the ideals of freedom, it is their own freedom that comes first. Good and Evil come second to their need to be free, and the only reliable thing about them is how totally unreliable they are. Chaotic Neutral characters are free-spirited and do not enjoy the unnecessary suffering of others, but if they join a team, it is because that team's goals happen to coincide with their own at the moment. They invariably resent taking orders and can be very selfish in their pursuit of personal goals. A Chaotic Neutral character does not have to be an aimless wanderer; they may have a specific goal in mind, but their methods of achieving that goal are often disorganized, unorthodox, or entirely unpredictable.

An unusual subset of Chaotic Neutral is "strongly Chaotic Neutral", describing a character who behaves chaotically to the point of appearing insane. Characters of this type may regularly change their appearance and attitudes for the sake of change, and intentionally disrupt organizations for the sole reason of disrupting a lawful construct. Characters of this type include the Xaositects from the Planescape setting, and Hennet from the third edition Player's Handbook. In Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, Chaotic Neutral was frequently assumed to refer to this subset.

Captain Jack Sparrow, Al Swearengen from the TV series Deadwood, and Snake Plissken from Escape from New York are Chaotic Neutral characters according to Complete Scoundrel.[7] Slaadi represent pure chaos outsiders.

Lawful Evil

Lawful Evil is referred to as the "Dominator" or "Diabolic" alignment. Characters of this alignment see a well-ordered system as being easier to exploit, and show a combination of desirable and undesirable traits; while they usually obey their superiors and keep their word, they care nothing for the rights and freedoms of other individuals and are not averse to twisting the rules to work in their favor. Examples of this alignment include tyrants, devils, undiscriminating mercenary types who have a strict code of conduct, and loyal soldiers who enjoy the act of killing.

Like Lawful Good Paladins, Lawful Evil characters may sometimes find themselves faced with the dilemma of whether to obey law or evil when the two conflict. However, their issues with Law versus Evil are more concerned with "Will I get caught?" versus "How does this benefit me?"

Boba Fett of Star Wars, and X-Men's Magneto are cited examples of Lawful Evil characters.[7] The Lawful Evil outsiders are known as Baatezu (Devils).

Neutral Evil

Neutral Evil is called the "Malefactor" alignment. Characters of this alignment are typically selfish and have no qualms about turning on their allies-of-the-moment. They have no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit to it. They abide by laws for only as long as it is convenient for them. A villain of this alignment can be more dangerous than either Lawful or Chaotic Evil characters, since he is neither bound by any sort of honor or tradition nor disorganized and pointlessly violent.

Examples are an assassin who has little regard for formal laws but does not needlessly kill, a henchman who plots behind his superior's back, or a mercenary who switches sides if made a better offer.

Complete Scoundrel cites X-Men's Mystique, and Sawyer of the early seasons of Lost as Neutral Evil characters.[7] Yugoloths (Daemons) are the outsiders of Neutral Evil.

Chaotic Evil

Chaotic Evil is referred to as the "Destroyer" or "Demonic" alignment. Characters of this alignment tend to have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. They set a high value on personal freedom, but do not have any regard for the lives or freedom of other people. They do not work well in groups, as they resent being given orders, and usually behave themselves only out of fear of punishment.

It is not compulsory for a Chaotic Evil character to be constantly performing sadistic acts just for the sake of being evil, or constantly disobeying orders just for the sake of causing chaos. They do however enjoy the suffering of others, and view honor and self-discipline as weaknesses. Serial killers and monsters of limited intelligence are typically Chaotic Evil.

According to the Complete Scoundrel sourcebook, Carl Denham from King Kong and Riddick from Pitch Black are Chaotic Evil.[7] The chaotic evil outsiders are the Tanar'ri (Demons).

EDIT: made the descriptions in a spoiler.

Got this all off wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)
 

MercurySteam

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I like to think that I'm amoral as opposed to any of the above. Just to be different.
 

Thaluikhain

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Lawful Good, I hope (but loads of people are going to say that, except people playing the Chaotic Good rebel). You can't get anything done without an social framework of sometimes, all you can do is leach off those who do. Now, leaching off them might be a good idea if you are more moral than they are, but in the long run, it doesn't work.

As an aside, the vast majority of fictional characters and real life people don't fit into the "evil" categories, because they are based around the person agreeing with the description, instead of convincing themselves they are in the right.
 
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Neutral good.

'With great power,comes a great beat down great responsibility.'

Lawful good tends to be mired too much in tradition and entrenched in ridiculous laws, while chaotic good characters are kinda, well, too chaotic.

Balance, in all things.
 

luclin92

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well now days im more close to neutral good since i only care to earn enough money so that i can go to school next year and only help people that i feel need it since i cant spare to give a lot of money
 

LawlessSquirrel

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Chaotic Neutral. According to every related test I've taken and it's own definition. Can't really refute it myself.
 

Fawful

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Directed at the OP: Dude, it's called a spoiler tag. Use them.

I'd say Chaotic Good because the discription above almost fully applies to me.
 

NinjaDuckie

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I usually feel like I fit Neutral Good, or Lawful Neutral. It's also usually how alignment quizzes read me. I'm happy with the result, to be honest. Although in videogames with choices I tend to play through once as a Lawful Good character and once as Chaotic Evil - mainly to see the differing reactions of NPCs and storylines.

EDIT: also, I think the selection of Batman as a Lawful Good character is off the mark. Superman is by far the Lawful Good, Batman fits Neutral Good better because the ways he achieves justice aren't necessarily lawful - at least, in the more recent years. Certainly in the 60s he was working alongside regular police, like Superman. But now (Dark Knight era) he's more distant from them and less obliged to play by their rules.
 

tlgAlaska

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True Neutral, leaning slightly to chaotic

I don't help old ladys over the street, but don't kick puppies either.
I follow the law, but not because I think it's the right thing to do, I just don't want to bother with the consequences of not doing so. I find it acceptable to break it under certain circumstances.
 

James Crook

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StormShaun said:
Chaotic Good

Chaotic Good is known as the "Beatific," "Rebel," or "Cynic" alignment. A Chaotic Good character favors change for a greater good, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom, not only for oneself, but for others as well. They always intend to do the right thing, but their methods are generally disorganized and often out of alignment with the rest of society. They may create conflict in a team if they feel they are being pushed around, and often view extensive organization and planning as pointless, preferring to improvise.

Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica, and Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly are examples of Chaotic Good individuals.[7] Eladrin are the outsider race representing Chaotic Good
I think that may include Renegade Commander Shepard in Mass Effect. Or even Garrus depending on your choices.

Screw the law, I'm chaotic good :)
 

Lazy Kitty

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I guess Neutral Evil.
I'll stay more or less within the law (on the surface at least), until have the power to crush and dictate it.
But only because otherwise it would compromise some of my long term plans. Or at least unnecesarily delay them.
Though a bit of chaos, can be fun too...
We'll keep that for later though.
 

Halceon

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Chaotic Evil. I care for me and my closest and I don't care if that conflicts with someone's ideas of propriety or the way things should be done. Also, I strongly object to that description. If we were to add another layer to the system, then it would fit Chaotic Evil Idiot.
In fact, what is seen as benevolence is more commonly related to forethought than motivation. It's quite simple to be altruistic out of selfish motives and to be selfish out of altruistic motives.
 

varulfic

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According to your definitions above, I'm Chaotic Good, but I consider myself Neutral because I don't actually do anything. It's one thing to think happy thoughts and wish the best for everyone, but if you just sit on your ass then can you really call yourself good? Alignment should be about actions as well as your state of mind.
 

Thaluikhain

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NinjaDuckie said:
EDIT: also, I think the selection of Batman as a Lawful Good character is off the mark. Superman is by far the Lawful Good, Batman fits Neutral Good better because the ways he achieves justice aren't necessarily lawful - at least, in the more recent years. Certainly in the 60s he was working alongside regular police, like Superman. But now (Dark Knight era) he's more distant from them and less obliged to play by their rules.
Batman doesn't follow the rules of normal society, he follows the rules of the bat-family. Batman, Nightwing, Red Robin, Oracle (or whoever she is now) all follow a strict code and, as a rule, never deviate from it. I'd say that makes him Lawfyl Good. Robin (current) and Huntress, they'd be Neutral or Chaotic Good, in that they don't play by any particular rules.

Though, by that logic, any crazy cult that sticks to its crazy cult rules could claim to be Lawful Good, at least in their own minds.
 

StormShaun

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Use_Imagination_here said:
None of those describe me very well.
Thats why there is an "other" poll vote where you can describe what you are.
James Crook said:
StormShaun said:
Chaotic Good

Chaotic Good is known as the "Beatific," "Rebel," or "Cynic" alignment. A Chaotic Good character favors change for a greater good, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom, not only for oneself, but for others as well. They always intend to do the right thing, but their methods are generally disorganized and often out of alignment with the rest of society. They may create conflict in a team if they feel they are being pushed around, and often view extensive organization and planning as pointless, preferring to improvise.

Starbuck from Battlestar Galactica, and Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly are examples of Chaotic Good individuals.[7] Eladrin are the outsider race representing Chaotic Good
I think that may include Renegade Commander Shepard in Mass Effect. Or even Garrus depending on your choices.

Screw the law, I'm chaotic good :)
Remember I got this off wikipedia.