Poll: The Barren Wasteland of the Average Gamer's Mind

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agentmaine

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This entire thread is a psychological experiment for the sake of me as well as gaming as an industry. By viewing this thread, you have devoted time to reading this off of only one bit of knowledge of what it is about. Similarly, with games, all you have is a name.

One might respond by saying "we get screenshots, trailers, dev interviews, previews, reviews, advertisement and more" but in order, why these are not good means of determining whether a game is worth your time.

Screenshots are, more than half the time, taken from cinimatics. Some screenshots are taken from parts that won't be in the final game. Some are taken of explosions, but very few if any at all actually do any good telling you how much fun a game will be. Gameplay screenshots don't come out until very soon before the game is released and even then, they only show certain points in a game when there will inevitably be worse parts.

Trailers are even worse than screenshots. A game's trailer can take the Halo approach and explain everything in depth, but it is still their idea of it, they can take the Fallout approach and tell you very little, they can take the Borderlands approach of shear comedy, but no matter what approach they take, it is still what the developers want you to see. What they think will make you buy the game. They don't show you the boring parts which generally drag on for much longer than the fun ones, and they simply show you the game through a keyhole, maybe a shiny colorful keyhole, but when you open the door, you can still find that that was the glint of a rusting bicycle when you were expecting a gleaming porche.

Dev Interviews are limited at best. The developer generally gives scripted answers and when they are caught off guard they either make excuses or blame the marketing department. They never say everything you want, or maybe don't want, but need to hear to know whether the game is good.

Previews are always, one hundred percent of the time, positive. Game Informer did a couple months of preview hype for Army of Two: Fortieth Day, but when it was released, they gave it a 6.5 thus proving that their preview was extremely heavily biased.

Advertisements are just the marketing department yell "oh oh look at me! see! see! isn't it cool!" and jump up and down. The Dante's Inferno commercial at the Superbowl barely showed anything.


The point I am trying to make is, gamers have recently needed to acquire an insane 6th sense of which games are actually good. Like clicking into this thread, you don't actually know what you are going to get until the credits roll. Every person who reads this read it simply because it has a funny name. That LOLcats like appeal is what lets the industry get away with this kind of "selling it" where the buyer is unaware of anything until the money is gone.

A good game won't need that. A good game will sell off of quality alone, but a good, unadvertised game will barely scratch the surface because the insane hyping quota can't be met by new or small devs. Gamers need to check before buying big name titles, and watch the little ones because they generally are fun to just watch. Even if the game isn't perfect, being able to say "I knew them before they were big" is always fun to say and their quality doesn't come from cheap parlor tricks.


Just keep this stuff in mind next time you buy a game.
 

delet

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You're theory was wrong with me. I saw a new thread and so I decided to check it out...

Also, meh. I've known about this for a good while. It's best to check out in detail what a game is truly about. Gameplay videos help the most. Like you mentioned, some gamers have a '6th sense' about whether games will be good or bad. I think that's really just learning to look through the hype and look at what the game really is.

Generally, a single demo is all it takes to tell if a game will be good for me.

Edit: Damn you Furburt! Ninja'd me on every single point...
 

Jark212

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The PR folks job is to tell you what you want to hear about there game: That it's the most awesome, funnest, and greatest thing ever to grave your console with it's presence...

It's up to us not to get caught up in the hype...
 

SnootyEnglishman

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I watch the before release party of things just to be more informed as to what can end up in the final product and still keep a little discretion about it so as to not be expecting a certain emotion when buying the game. Like most people start to do when a new game is held up i put on they anti-hype armor and wait till i can play it myself.
 

DominicxD

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"Don't buy a game if the company have made it look good."

wat

OP's post is hardly ever true for me, I mostly enjoy all the over hyped games I buy.
 

Pimppeter2

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I rely on common sense.

Just like with this thread. Intresting title, thought out topic; gets a clicky and a responsy.

I'll edit later when I get on a good computer.
 

Jedoro

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While we may only see the best of the game, a game's not even worth considering if the best of it is horrible. Just gotta guess from previews, screenshots, and videos if the worst of the game will be bearable. And, you know, go with your gut.
 

Phenakist

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Sorry, that's incorrect as far as I go.

All that '6th sense' is just having enough brainpower and common sense not to get caught up with the masses and look at something from a non biased point of view.
 

AboveUp

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I didn't really care for the name. I opened up most threads that are open.

When it comes to reliable information about a game, the only way to go is either watching a friend play or watching someone's Let's Play on YouTube. If you watch a normal person/hardcore gamer play the game you can tell quite a lot about it. If they're messing up a lot you can often tell whether it's because the game is really hard or if the controls are bad. Since you're watching them play you get to see the ingame graphics complete with the glitches they might have.

I always go to YouTube and search for gameplay footage of a game before buying it. I even did it with Mass Effect 2 even though I already knew I was going to end up buying it anyway.
 

AvsJoe

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This goes for pretty much everything. Advertising and promotions do not show you how good a game is gonna be. But after spending some time paying attention to promos, one can generally acquire that 6th sense. For instance, I can tell after some experience whether or not a movie is gonna be good based on its trailer about 90% of the time, only rarely getting really surprised (I thought Lord of War, for instance, was gonna be a terrible movie based on its trailer. I was wrong).
 

More Fun To Compute

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You can normally get a fairly good idea of how most games will play from a gameplay screenshot or video. A lot of games just play fairly similarly.
 

Howlingwolf214

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I mostly go by two Things: Genre and then reviews.

If it's in a particular Genre I like I look more into it, by reading reviews. I tend to go for more lower-key reviews that aren't tied into a magazine and can therefore publish unedited works.

I then try and find a demo. If not, I look at the price. If it's above £25, then I get it second hand.

Wait, I should've done that before buying Lost Planet. Dammit.
 
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To the OP, this makes a very aggravating post. Pompous at best. As a psychological experiment you should really keep a neutral voice, what you've adopted is a authoritarian pose which will alienate people.
 

HarmanSmith

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Regarding game commercials and demos, is it just me or do the people on the ads always seem to be playing really badly? I keep seeing the character getting his ass whooped; how is that supposed to make me want to buy the game?

Anybody else notice this?
 

Axolotl

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But with games I have much more than the name to go on. I generally have a decent idea of how the game plays and more importantly I only buy games on release if it's from a company that makes games I like.

This means that when choosing what game to buy I can base that choice on the opinions of others who have played it. Granted sometimes this screws me over (e.g. Mass Effect) but most of the time it leads me to play primarily good games as long as I don't mind being slightly behind the cutting edge.
 

More Fun To Compute

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HarmanSmith said:
Regarding game commercials and demos, is it just me or do the people on the ads always seem to be playing really badly? I keep seeing the character getting his ass whooped; how is that supposed to make me want to buy the game?

Anybody else notice this?
Watching people play games is disgusting. They sit stock still and adopt a game face that makes them look like a stroke victim. Much better from a marketing perspective to hire some pretty boys and girls who have never played a game and have them dance around like when they went to acting class as an infant.
 

Cowabungaa

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Nothing else than the title of a thread cán attract me (seeing as I don't care about polls), so yes of course I did.

But yes, of course screenshots, trailer, interviews and all that marketing jazz will give you an extremely biased view of the game. And while that might be stupid, it makes perfect sense. They're not trying to be honest, they're trying to sell you something. Even demo's can have this, the developer can put some of the best sections in the game in the demo, making you think it's all awesome, while the rest of the game is dead boring.

And because that counts for marketing in general, it's not just gamers that recently needed to acquire a 6th sense of whether a game is good or not, consumers in general need that throughout the ages to prevent from being ripped off. Sadly, most people still lack that.
 

S.R.S.

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Any one else remember how much GTA 3 was marketed?

Me neither. A good game "will always find a way."