Poll: Was half life 2 episode 2 behind the times?
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It's not the Cry2 engine. But it works damn well enough to give us an engaging story and believable characters.
no way. It still has the most realistic facial movements and expressions ever, the dinamic lighting, the physics, the new and beautiful flora, it's astounding to this day.
It's technology was up to date at release, end of story. More importantly, the Source engine not only looks good, but it's far better optimized than most.
Short answer, no.
Short answer, no.
Graphically, maybe not. I think that the Source Engine is starting to show its age a little in that regard, but it is still a very good engine. The gameplay makes up for the lack of bleeding edge graphics anyway.
The 'open-ended' bit at the end was pretty underwhelming after getting used to things like Far Cry and such. And how the hell could anyone get to like the characters in HL2? At the end bit where that black dude was gonna get his brain eaten but he wouldn't stop talking I was just like "Jesus Christ, hurry up and fucking die".
Crap. Just put in "yes". Meant "no". Damn.
It's "up with the times" in terms of performance, I think. Yeah, just read R.Nevermore's input.
Okay, so it's not like Crysis in appearance, but I think it still looks great AND plays great AND my computer can play it without bursting into flames.
My only complaint is the use of that hard rock-sounding junk they play when the antlions invade the mines in Episode 2. Sounded more like Halo 2. What, are they going to get Breaking Benjamin to play for Episode 3?
It's "up with the times" in terms of performance, I think. Yeah, just read R.Nevermore's input.
Okay, so it's not like Crysis in appearance, but I think it still looks great AND plays great AND my computer can play it without bursting into flames.
My only complaint is the use of that hard rock-sounding junk they play when the antlions invade the mines in Episode 2. Sounded more like Halo 2. What, are they going to get Breaking Benjamin to play for Episode 3?
What you think of the characters is subjective. They're not intrinsically unlikable.Twinnie said:
No, I don't think that just because Ep2 didn't have a cover mechanic, recoverable health, or any other of the trends in modern FPSs, it was 'behind'. I thought it looked pretty, but then, I'm not really interested in graphics. Game-play wise, I believe it's carrying on it's own style of gameplay, so, I can't fault it there. So, no, I don't think that Ep2 is dated. Though, you could take this as a rabid fanboy defending his beloved, but then again, you might not. Your call.
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cod4, yes. crysis, no. crysis is a game that does something that very few shooters (deus ex and stalker for example) allow, the ability to choose how you want to do things. cod4 and even hl2 and its episodes as well as most shooters all have you follow one very strictly linear, developer defined paths. crysis (for its first 6 levels at least, to a much lesser extent the later levels) allows you to choose exactly how you want to do things. the progression is linear, yes, but the gameplay is very much open ended in a way that so few shooters have ever been. adding the nanosuit into the equation, a gameplay mechanic thats never been done this specific way before in a shooter, adds a lot more depth and choice as well.JakubK666 said:
the soruce engine is well optimized, espically for when it was released. but today, almost 4 years later its more "well optimized" due to its age. it still looks/can look damn good, but it is an older engine and definitly not anywhere near as advanced as newer engines such as unreal 3, ce2 or id tech 5. that being said though its really outdated. the one thing that source does that none of these do well is the fact that its so customizable, all valve really has to do is update the lighting and physics engines as well as adding in more functionality (all things they are very actively doing as well) and it can easily compete with current engines. valve is, as usual, taking their time with it, but again, all it needs is a few minor updates and its very much on par.MattyDienhoff said:
twinnie, the characers in half life 2 have more depth in their character, as well as acting and even coming across as real people more than any other game released period. no game has had characters as sublimly deep as half life 2 does, in every way they come across as real people, from the things they say and how they say them, the emotions they display as well as their pure dedication to their cause.
stompy, cover mechanics are nothing new, games have had them since 2000 at least, granted few if any anywhere near as popular as in gears, but for a first person shooter i aruge they are useless as they take away from the immersion. if you want to take cover in an fps move up behind something and crouch down, much more realistic and intense than cover mechanics.
anyway, episode 2s graphics are dated because for the most part valve is using the same models and textures they used back with half life 2 four years ago. however, if you look at tf2 and portal, or even the hunters in episode 2 even youll see that they are quite well designed and look quite good as well. in terms of gamelay its still ahead of the game despite being more of the same from half life 2. hl2 was a few years ahead of its time, as was half life back in '98. valve put physics as one of the forefronts in hl2, that was four years ago, its just recently been where developers are putting more of a focus on physics, espically physics based gameplay. the level design is top notch, the pacing is quite good and its not too difficult but at the same time not a walk in the park. its so well balanced in every regard its hard not to enjoy. if anything games are just now catching up with half life 2, which was ahead of the times, so no, its not.
Naw. Lighting, facial animations, and character animations were all spot on. Some would say Ep. 2 compares unfavourably to Bioshock, but that's partly because Bioshock takes place entirely in dark corridors and you never get close enough to any of the characters to see how plasticy-looking their faces are.
I'll admit, HL2's visuals don't come close to achieving the level of photo-realism of say COD4, but what they do, they do very well.
I'll admit, HL2's visuals don't come close to achieving the level of photo-realism of say COD4, but what they do, they do very well.
Episode 2 was the best shooter of 2007, CoD4 might have looked cooler, but did it make me cry? NO!
I don't think I've played any shooters that drew me in like half-life and its spawn. I actually felt like a messiah to the Resistance, I cared about the people, the gunplay was great, graphics still holding up... I could go on for a while. Yea, it more than holds up. And keep in mind that I never actually played the game until January when I got the Orange Box... and that was just so I could understand the cake references.