Poll: What age should you be seen as independent of your parents?

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bobmus

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I was trying to explain the situation of my student loan the other day, and thinking about it makes my head hurt.
The amount of money you receive for your student loan is dependent on where you'll be living, and the income of your parents. Unless your parents are earning a low salary, you can't get the full maintenance grant for living. My parents are fairly well off, so I get the minimum loan, not even enough to cover housing - what if my parents hadn't wanted to give me money for living? Apparently I'd have to seek legal indemnity to get a loan to cover my costs, which seems ridiculous considering I'm 18 and moving out of my house!
Does this seem stupid to you guys?

TL;DR: I think at 18 you should be treated as independent from your parents, what do you think?
 

DugMachine

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When you get a job, move out and stop getting their help. At least, that's when my parents saw me as an adult.
 

Rawne1980

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When you leave home and don't ask for any money from them.

While you are in their house you are dependant on them.

It's not related to age.
 

Relish in Chaos

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As others have mentioned, when you're not dependent on them for housing, money, etc., which should be around the age of 18.
 

Bertylicious

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Hang on, hang on, whoa.

What if someone moves out and then, because of Circumstances, has to move back in with their parents? Are they no longer "independent"?

It should have to do with the ability to either earn or collect benefit. Whether the person chooses to do so and/or still receives support from their family is immaterial.
 

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Arontala said:
Zhukov said:
When you are no longer dependant on them.
You just blew my mind.
My mind would have been blown as well if I hadn't been thinking the same thing as soon as I read the OP.
 

Thaluikhain

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Eh, there's no hard and fast rule.

It depends on culture, as well, IIRC, someone was running teh nation of Poland while living with their mum. Now, presumably he could have moved out if he wanted to, but didn't see the need.
 

Verzin

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as has been said above: When you are no longer dependent on them.

Age is no factor in this. you are independent of your parents when you no longer require them to help feed/cloth/house you.

It could be 15, it could be 38.

EDIT: I'm twenty and still totally dependent on my parents. Why? because they're willing to help out and it saves massive amounts of money for me.
 

Bertylicious

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Wolverine18 said:
TheBobmus said:
I was trying to explain the situation of my student loan the other day, and thinking about it makes my head hurt.
The amount of money you receive for your student loan is dependent on where you'll be living, and the income of your parents. Unless your parents are earning a low salary, you can't get the full maintenance grant for living. My parents are fairly well off, so I get the minimum loan, not even enough to cover housing - what if my parents hadn't wanted to give me money for living? Apparently I'd have to seek legal indemnity to get a loan to cover my costs, which seems ridiculous considering I'm 18 and moving out of my house!
Does this seem stupid to you guys?

TL;DR: I think at 18 you should be treated as independent from your parents, what do you think?
In my province you are legally responsible for support of your child until they complete their undergrad degree, or are not realistic canadiates in persuit of the degree. The parental test makes sense. Why should poor people have to pay to subsidize rich kids going to university?
So that poor peoples kids' university education gets subsidised?

I mean if that is what happens its good otherwise that would be shitty.
 

Verzin

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Wolverine18 said:
Verzin said:
as has been said above: When you are no longer dependent on them.

Age is no factor in this. you are independent of your parents when you no longer require them to help feed/cloth/house you.

It could be 15, it could be 38.

EDIT: I'm twenty and still totally dependent on my parents. Why? because they're willing to help out and it saves massive amounts of money for me.
How embarressing for you. If you are over 18 and have no valid reason (temporary unemployment through no fault of your own, university, college, severe illness, etc) then you shouldn't.
really think it's embarrassing? for your information I am going to university, but even if I wasn't the idea of passing up someone's offer to pay a portion of your rent for free is ridiculous.

stings the ego, doesn't feel very good, but logically there is no reason not to accept the help. Even saving a little is worth the sting.

I'm a little surprised you actually think getting help from a parent is embarrassing. I've known many people who didn't accept help and ended up asking their parents to let them move back in for a few months while they picked up the pieces of their 'independent' life.
 

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well here(australia) as far i know you have to earn like 15000 in a year to be able to claim independence. how can you be independent if you dont earn your own money. and if you havent earned enough money they take your parents income into account when your living at home when paying you welfare.
 

Rawne1980

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Bertylicious said:
Hang on, hang on, whoa.

What if someone moves out and then, because of Circumstances, has to move back in with their parents? Are they no longer "independent"?

It should have to do with the ability to either earn or collect benefit. Whether the person chooses to do so and/or still receives support from their family is immaterial.
Then that person is still dependant on their parents.

Like I said, age means nothing. While you are dependant on parents you are not independent of them are you....

Independent is standing on your own 2 feet and going your own way. If circumstance takes you back to your parents then you are no longer independent.

Long story short, while you are dependent on someone you are not independent. The word is pretty self explanatory.
 

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Wolverine18 said:
Verzin said:
as has been said above: When you are no longer dependent on them.

Age is no factor in this. you are independent of your parents when you no longer require them to help feed/cloth/house you.

It could be 15, it could be 38.

EDIT: I'm twenty and still totally dependent on my parents. Why? because they're willing to help out and it saves massive amounts of money for me.
How embarressing for you. If you are over 18 and have no valid reason (temporary unemployment through no fault of your own, university, college, severe illness, etc) then you shouldn't.
I don't know any 18 year old who is earning enough money from their job to move out from their parents place.