Poll: What did Sony do wrong?

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ImSkeletor

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I have recently seen a lot of hate at Sony because of recent events but why? Some scumbag hackers got in. Why is that all Sony's fault? Why are we filing law suits against them? There may be a very good reason for it, but as of now I don't see it. As a PS3 owner I kind of want to know what that is.
 

Seieko Pherdo

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People have this strange habit of when something goes wrong they blame people who aren't really at fault. Why I can understand why people are mad blaming Sony for the actions of people not related to them is just silly.
 

DeadlyYellow

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The only thing Sony did wrong was handle the Geohot thing rather ungraciously. It's the mess that arguably started this.
 

WrongSprite

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Because lots of people have entrusted them with personal information, and they should be capable of keeping it that way. Still, nobody's perfect.
 

JenSeven

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MovieBob did a great episode on Sony on his Game Overthinker show

http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2010/08/episode-39-emperor-has-no-clothes.html
 

Silas13013

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Because, as a business who collects confidential information in order to provide services, they are obligated to both defend that information against all intruders, and alert the customer whenever there is a risk of a security breach, not wait until a few days have passed like they did.
 

Gigatoast

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Well it's not like it was just some random attack, obviously Sony did something to piss someone off. Assuming their network security was actually up to snuff, that someone is apparently a hell-of-a force to be reckoned with. And if the reason they got hacked was because they had shoddy network security then it IS their fault.

Besides, Sony isn't really the only victim here, it's not like THEIR credit card information was stolen.
 

artanis_neravar

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Because people don't know who the hackers are and they need something with a face to put all their rage on
 

Dan Steele

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the people who hate Sony are just jumping on the BLAME THE BIG BAD BUISNESS band wagon. Just ignore them, they will see they are wrong soon enough
 

thelonewolf266

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EVERYTHING.Just kidding they failed to protect confidential information entrusted to their care by their customers simple as.
 

artanis_neravar

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Gigatoast said:
Well it's not like it was just some random attack, obviously Sony did something to piss someone off. Assuming their network security was actually up to snuff, that someone is apparently a hell-of-a force to be reckoned with. And if the reason they got hacked was because they had shoddy network security then it IS their fault.

Besides, Sony isn't really the only victim here, it's not like THEIR credit card information was stolen.
This is like saying that if you cut someone off in traffic and the chase you down and shoot you it's your own fault
 

kortin

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DeadlyYellow said:
The only thing Sony did wrong was handle the Geohot thing rather ungraciously. It's the mess that arguably started this.
Geohot got what he deserved, that douchebag.

Because people are idiots. They were hacked. If anything people should be mad about the delay in getting the news that its possible their info could have been compromised.
 

Blindrooster

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I blame the hackers. At least sony is attempting to do something about it. The hackers attacked innocent people by going after their personal info. I hope sony comes out okay, i'd much rather support them than the people who would sell my credit card information.
 

CHooe

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Obviously it's the hackers' fault for hacking Sony's system in the first place, but Sony has to be blamed for their borderline negligence with regard to the archaic security on their servers and lack of modern encryption on communications with their servers. They were cutting corners, and they paid for it with this massive security breach.
 

Defense

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Sony has had a reputation of having both bad PR and having annoying news channels that spin their information so it makes it look like bad PR.

For example: Gene Gifford claimed that Sony was running outdated servers and didn't have any firewalls. He was talking out of his ass and knew that completely. A search on google webcache showed that Sony was using the most recent version of Apache a month before the servers got hit. They also had firewall protection and didn't have user passwords out in plain text.

They also sued a douchebag who most people view as a vigilante of justice fighting against the evil giant corporation.
JenSeven said:
MovieBob did a great episode on Sony on his Game Overthinker show

http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2010/08/episode-39-emperor-has-no-clothes.html
Moviebob is pretty much a popular troll, I suggest you take his words with a grain of salt.
 

Booze Zombie

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ImSkeletor said:
I have recently seen a lot of hate at Sony because of recent events but why? Some scumbag hackers got in. Why is that all Sony's fault? Why are we filing law suits against them? There may be a very good reason for it, but as of now I don't see it. As a PS3 owner I kind of want to know what that is.
They were told their network was unsecure and they didn't do anything about it, basically.
The hackers are to blame for commiting their part, but Sony are also at fault by negligence.

That's basically why.
 

bob1052

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CHooe said:
Obviously it's the hackers' fault for hacking Sony's system in the first place, but Sony has to be blamed for their borderline negligence with regard to the archaic security on their servers and lack of modern encryption on communications with their servers. They were cutting corners, and they paid for it with this massive security breach.
The system was not archaic or out of date. A more recent investigation says they had the most recent version.

The whole out of date argument arose because some guy said that a while back he apparently witnessed Sony employees posting on a public forum the (out of date) version they are currently using.

As for the encryption (or lack thereof), they encrypted the CC info. They cut the same amount of corners as any other company would have. If you think every company out there has your name and address etc. fully encrypted because they feel some kind of loyalty to you then you are wrong.
 

FalloutJack

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It's okay, I'm not gonna say it in big letters this time.

The answer is "Unpleasable Fanbase". People for and against and even not caring over all about Sony can, will, and have said some undeserved and bitchy things about them...for no real and logical reason.
 

DustyDrB

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It's not either/or. I blame both the hackers (whom I want to see put in jailed and fined into oblivion. Seriously, fine them so much that they will have no life to come back to once their sentence is served) and Sony (who are paying the price for slack security).

Get that? I blame BOTH. I don't know who started this either/or stuff with the blame, but just stop.
 

Zakarath

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I blame Sony as it was their responsibility to protect that data, and they failed. Certainly, it was the hackers who stole the data, but say for example someone steals the contents of your deposit box from a bank. Do you go after the theives? No. that's the job of law enforcement. What you do is go to the bank to get reimbursement for what you lost.

Is it the bank's fault they got robbed? No. Is their level of security relevant? Not especially. Even if they held your stuff in a bomb-proof vault with DNA scans and other state of the art security, they're still responsible for reimbursing you for what was lost.

True, we're dealing with data here, not physical objects, but I feel the analogy holds up.