Poll: What's More Survivable? Xenomorphs or Yautja

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RJ 17

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Bonus points to anyone who knew what a Yautja was before coming to this topic. :p

Anyways, on with the question at hand. I had been intending to make a series out of this topic, and with the mild success of yesterday's "Xenomorph or Zombie?" topic (and with me having nothing better to do with my time at the moment) I've decided to make another one.

It seems the primary strength that people kept naming for Xenomorphs is their capacity to learn and adapt. Indeed, they are crafty little buggers that can come up with brilliant and tenacious assault plans while zombies pretty much only have one tactic: swarm because they can't take you all out.

So I think it's time to fight fire with fire, and as such today's What's More Survivable installment shall be the epic clash between those two most famous 20th Century Fox rivals: Xenomorphs - the returning champs - and Yautjas.

For those that aren't super-nerds on the subject, the more common name for a Yautja is simply Predator. So today's question is indeed the age-old battle of Alien vs Predator.

So which do you think would be easier to survive? Finding yourself caught in a Xenomorph infestation? Or finding yourself as the prime target in a Hunt?

The only rule for consideration is that, in the Hunt, you're not a civilian, you're some sort of armed authority (could be standard army, space marine, a cop, etc) and you can't cheat by simply disarming yourself to remove yourself as a target, as that is the simple and obvious answer that makes this no contest :p

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Heronblade

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Xenomorphs, for all their strength and physical advantages, are merely animals. While they are far from dumb as you mention, I have a far greater chance of being able to outmaneuver/outsmart them than a pack of Yautjas, particularly since such misdirection is the primary hallmark of the predators.

Since I somehow doubt that I'd have the firepower on hand to tackle either group head on, I'll take the xenomorphs and go to ground with as many traps and kill zones as I can set up.

Unfortunately, surviving such an assault would probably by default make me the prime target in a hunt...
 

RJ 17

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Heronblade said:
Unfortunately, surviving such an assault would probably by default make me the prime target in a hunt...
xD indeed, pulling off such an impressive defense would indeed make the preds VERY interested in you.
 

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I'd say the Predators, honestly. They are more like us, they can show respect and honour, I'd assume some may even grasp the concept or mercy and morality. They are completely intelligent beings. They may even have fear under some circumstances and would certainly know when they are beaten. Zenomorphs? Nah. They don't have any of these things, all they do is eat, mate and kill. Repeat the process. Given how quickly they breed and produce, and the manner in which they can kill their prey, I'd say we'd have a harder time with them really.
 

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RJ 17 said:
Bonus points to anyone who knew what a Yautja was before coming to this topic. :p
I get bonus points, yay!

Anyway, this is a tough one. The zombies were really a non-issue to decide but this is harder. In either scenario, you'd be fucked thoroughly. I will assume there you (or rather I) would have at least minimum information on the enemy, e.g., xenomorphs are crafty and the Yautja have futuristic weaponry and some moral or honour system. With this knowledge the "fucked" from the situation doesn't change one bit, though.

I think I'll go with Predators here. It is at least possible to reason with them. As in, if you prove you're worthy, they might let you go. And they have their honour there, so they might even give you a sporting chance. At the same time, The xenomorphs would either chew your face off or chew your face off slightly more violently. I'd say they are the less survivable in this case, even though the Yautja are better equipped and prepared, IMO.
 
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Don't predators only kill for sport?

If I drop all my weapons, the predators don't view me a target and I can just walk away.

Xenomorphs have no such qualms.

Edit: Should have read OP properly :D

If I can't avoid conflict, then the predators are more of a threat, simply because they are of equal or greater intelligence than humans, but stronger and with better tech.

Although, since predators have an honour system, I stand more chance of killing a predator 1v1, and earning my freedom.

Xenos don't care for honour.
 

Rowan93

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You need to hurt the predator a lot less to kill it than you would need to hurt a xenomorph. And shooting the xenomorph becomes a bad idea once it gets too close - not that there are any good ideas when a xenomorph is too close to put holes in safely, but death by acid is probably even worse than the kind of death you'd ordinarily get.

Oh, also, against the predator I can surround myself with civilian hostages, so they can't kill me without killing some actual civilians, which they don't do. Better yet, wire up a deadman's switch to a bomb in a bus full of nuns.

Film pitch: Terrorist does this, and a silent, honourable yautja hunter has to work with a wisecracking human cop.

Oh, wait a minute - if I'm some kind of military guy vs the predator, do I also get to be armed when fighting the xenomorph? If I get out in the open and have some decent weapons, I can just shoot them.
 

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Easier to survive against a predator. Don't make yourself a threat and they'll leave you alone.
 

RJ 17

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Rowan93 said:
You need to hurt the predator a lot less to kill it than you would need to hurt a xenomorph.
I beg to differ, Preds are FAR more durable than Xenomorphs. A pred can take repeated shotgun blasts to the chest/stomach then get up, call you a ************, and chase you out of a slaughter house. Part of what makes Xenos dangerous is the fact that they're "relatively" fragile. As such they wound easily which means splattering acid blood all around.

Oh, also, against the predator I can surround myself with civilian hostages, so they can't kill me without killing some actual civilians, which they don't do. Better yet, wire up a deadman's switch to a bomb in a bus full of nuns.
:p Nice try, but for the hostages: predators have pinpoint weapons (i.e. spear gun) which can pick you off easily without hurting any of your hostages. As for the bus-o-nuns, The pred wouldn't care if your actions caused the death of innocents, as such the threat of your death leading to the death of innocents is not a deterrent to a pred.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Although, since predators have an honour system, I stand more chance of killing a predator 1v1, and earning my freedom.

Xenos don't care for honour.
And that's what I'm thinking as well. Preds LOVE a good 1v1 death match for honor. They'll even nerf themselves (that is, not use their full arsenal) if it's clear that you're making your stand and want to challenge it to a fight. I think taking down a pred in this situation would be easier than trying to make it out of a Xeno infestation alive.
 
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RJ 17 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Although, since predators have an honour system, I stand more chance of killing a predator 1v1, and earning my freedom.

Xenos don't care for honour.
And that's what I'm thinking as well. Preds LOVE a good 1v1 death match for honor. They'll even nerf themselves (that is, not use their full arsenal) if it's clear that you're making your stand and want to challenge it to a fight. I think taking down a pred in this situation would be easier than trying to make it out of a Xeno infestation alive.
Especially since the death by predator is preferable over possible capture and by the xenos.

I don't like the idea of being facehugged.
 

Terminate421

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Predators obviously. They are rather intelligent people. Xenomorphs are just animals, they are smart animals, but they are still animals.
 

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Probably the Yautja Hunt assuming if I'm in the wilderness preferable with a nearby mud, cool water or ways to lower my temperature. Ok sure they got other visions as shown in Predator 2 but I see myself surviving better in a Predator Hunt.
 

Reiper

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I would rather fight the aliens

They may be terrifying, and come in numbers, but at least I can sprint like a mofo and run. The pred will jsut blow me in half with his heat seeking plasma caster
 

Rowan93

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RJ 17 said:
Rowan93 said:
You need to hurt the predator a lot less to kill it than you would need to hurt a xenomorph.
I beg to differ, Preds are FAR more durable than Xenomorphs. A pred can take repeated shotgun blasts to the chest/stomach then get up, call you a ************, and chase you out of a slaughter house. Part of what makes Xenos dangerous is the fact that they're "relatively" fragile. As such they wound easily which means splattering acid blood all around.
Okay, point taken. I haven't seen the films for a while, and was just going with relative sizes.

Oh, also, against the predator I can surround myself with civilian hostages, so they can't kill me without killing some actual civilians, which they don't do. Better yet, wire up a deadman's switch to a bomb in a bus full of nuns.
:p Nice try, but for the hostages: predators have pinpoint weapons (i.e. spear gun) which can pick you off easily without hurting any of your hostages. As for the bus-o-nuns, The pred wouldn't care if your actions caused the death of innocents, as such the threat of your death leading to the death of innocents is not a deterrent to a pred.[/quote]

I know about the precision weapons. When I say surround, I really mean surround. I'm talking layers of hostages here. I wouldn't be able to move except by shouting orders at my meatshields and threatening to shoot their kneecaps if they don't comply. I would be breathing through a snorkel, and seeing with a periscope. It'd be like a tank made of meat.

Also, I think if you cause someone's deadman's switch to go off, and that causes people to die, that does count as your fault. I mean, yeah, the psycho with the bomb in a bus full of nuns is the main guilty party, but there's enough responsibility to go round. Although I expect it would be seen as cheating, and as a result I would be hunted later with my death being more the goal than the actual sport.
 

Cowabungaa

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This summarizes it:

Just don't make yourself an interesting target, and you're done. A Xenomorph just wants you dead.
 

VeryOddGamer

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Well, both are bad in their own way. The Yautja are sentient so they would be able to coordinate devious plans to kill me, but on the other hand, they might show mercy or at least kill me fairly painlessly. The Xenomorphs are then that just reversed. With facehuggers.
 

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I would rather fight a Predator that was gunning for me rather than a Bug Infestation.

If I win a fight against a Predator I might get a cool toy.
 

silver wolf009

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Tough question.

I'd have to go with Predator hunt. Why? Because even if I survive for long enough, if the infestation gets too big, there's a chance that outside... "Aid", might drop from the sky and stem an infestation.

I've got a better shot setting up for a pred than I have for fighting of the swarm.