Poll: Whats next for ID software? Doom Sequel or Quake Reboot?

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B-Cell_v1legacy

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Since ID software recently came back with huge success with Doom reboot. it left people wanting Sequel just like shadow warrior 2 got from reboot and Rise of tomb raider got from reboot.

but theres also rumors that Quake reboot is in development. what do you think ID should make first? Doom sequel or Quake reboot.

I personally think Doom sequel because Quake is MP franchise and ID will screwed up Quake because they suck at making MP nowadays however they are excellent at making SP games. so Doom sequel all the way which set on earth.
 

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Quake is only " a MP" franchise if you ignore 3 out 4 games in the series. And they haven't messed the story up enough that they can't just spring off from Quake 4.

Doom on the other hand ended on a helacious cliffhanger so I'd like to see them again I'd that up.
 

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What do I think they should do? Funny you ask. Here are a handful of seemingly unrelated points (but stick with them, I'm going somewhere interesting):

-Much like the video games industry, Hollywood is not actually out of new ideas, but is unwilling to throw lots of money at anything with a hint of risk.
-Adding on to an established series (even if there's only one entry) is a much riskier proposition than executives seem to think; you do have a (virtually) guaranteed audience, but they're there because they liked the original, and any changes you make are going to piss someone off; the changes that're actually good are no exception.
-Said good changes are also really, really hard to predict.
-There are, to the best of my knowledge, only three good movies with "two thousand" in the title.
-"Death Race 2000" is not one of them. But what it lacks in overall quality it makes up for in campy charm; go in expecting that and you can still enjoy it.
-Nonetheless, Hollywood remade it into "Death Race" in 2008; they took out the campy humor and ramped up the grittiness.
-It sucked, but no one really cared.

That last point is key, and illustrates why I'm suggesting what I'm going to suggest. A well-loved title brings big publicity. But screw up a good thing, and people will hate you for it. The solution? Take a big-name, publicity-generating title that wasn't good, and bring people in with the promise of "we can't do any worse!", and the unspoken promise of glorious schadenfreude if you somehow do. Yes, I'm suggesting that id remake Daikatana. They can't do any worse! Plus:

-Death Race 2000 did get a video game made of it, which was remade in 1990, proving that the industry could handle a good deal of controversy (in light of everything that has happened since, that statement seems absolutely laughable, but remember that things were very different back then), which signaled the all-clear for Grand Theft Auto. Just think what a Daikatana remake could get us!
 

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I don't want exactly a Quake reboot. I want a sequel of the first game's lore. So much potential for a good fps Lovecraft Horror game.
 

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I want them to team up with MachineGames and make a crossover co-op FPS that ties the lore of Wolfenstein with DOOM. Why? Cause it happened before with the Cyber Demon (the reason it had a robot arm and leg was because BJ blew off its original arm and leg way earlier in some spin off Wolfenstein game) and I think it would be neat.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong (I've only dabbled a little in the series), but aren't the Quake games only tangentially related at best? They've always seemed rather schizophrenic when it comes to the story, ranging from dark Lovecraftian fantasy with guns to "man vs. machine" sci-fi to trans-dimensional blood sport. Labeling it as a "reboot" would be rather redundant given that such overhauls are the status quo.

I would argue that DOOM has aged better thematically, as illustrated in the following critique:

Basically, Quake is very much a relic of its time, a very specific time in the mid-late 90's, to be exact. Its tone is more niche as well, eliciting themes of angst and oppression. Even DOOM's most hellish visuals still convey a kind of tongue-in-cheek irreverence, whereas Quake presents its morbid vistas with a straight face. Its depressing color palette of brown, grey and muted purple don't help either in a day and age when gamers are becoming increasingly weary of "boring, brown shooters."

So yeah, chalk me up for a sequel to DOOM 4. Quake was certainly influential, but its most important contributions were more mechanical than thematic.
 

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Neverhoodian said:
So yeah, chalk me up for a sequel to DOOM 4. Quake was certainly influential, but its most important contributions were more mechanical than thematic.
Agreed. Both Doom and Quake were originally intended to be much more elaborate games, and both ended up being simplified for the final release. This resulted in inconsistencies in both games, Doom's "Phobos" levels looked nothing like Phobos and Quake alternated between techbases and medieval castles in an absolutely nonsensical fashion. The difference is that Doom managed to have a very cohesive design with easily distinguishable level themes while Quake was muddy and confusing.

Then you had Quake II which had the opposite problem. Levels that looked way too similar.

I did find the story in II and IV to be somewhat compelling though, if a bit corny. The idea of fighting an alien race that essentially hacks up your own allies and puts them back together to fight you is a pretty interesting one even if it's been done before.
 

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What's this? A B-cell thread that actually posits a fairly interesting question rather than descending into fanboyism of certain (genres of) games? Huh. How refreshing.

Anyway, a Doom sequel seems more likely, because as I and others have pointed out, Quake comes off as downright schizophrenic as to what it actually IS, so to speak. There seems little reason to reboot Quake rather than just stick "Quake 5" on a game that could really be anything about anything, provided it's an FPS (and even that's arguable).
 

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Doom sequel, probably. As others have said Quake is just... well, which Quake do you continue from? Medieval Lovecraftian Gothic, Arena Shooter or Sci-Fi FPS involving cyborg aliens?

Granted, they can always split it down the middle and have Quake: Medieval and Quake: Strogg, with Quake III just serving as the basis for the Multiplayer mode, but that'd be a hell of a task that I doubt will happen given that... well, I haven't heard anything from ID about Quake for years. Not since Quake Wars, which wasn't... bad, but very quickly forgotten.

So, odds are, ride that Doom wagon right into Doom 2: Why The Fuck Is The UAC Always Doing Shit With Demons God Dammit.
 

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How about a new IP? Something fresh and creative with all the cash they have made from DOOM's recent success.
 

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I would love to see a Quake reboot. BUT it has to be originating from the very first one.

I'm currently replaying Quake 1 and 2 and for me the first one and its addons wins in terms of atmosphere. I like the Strogg stuff as well, but if I could choose I'd always pick Quake 1.

But what I really want is a modern version of Heretic or Hexen 2.
 

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Def Quake. Take the movement from Quake 3/live, theme from Quake 1 and visuals from Doom 4 and it would be the best thing ever!
 

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B-Cell said:
I personally think Doom sequel because Quake is MP franchise and ID will screwed up Quake because they suck at making MP nowadays however they are excellent at making SP games. so Doom sequel all the way which set on earth.
Id isn't solely responsible for the multiplayer in DOOM. They developed it in conjunction with Certain Affinity, who clearly did most of the legwork since it plays like only slightly faster Halo.

OT: The only Quake I've played is Quake 4 and it seems like Quake 4 is the Doom 3 of its franchise. A more corridor driven horror esque game than the ones that came before. I wouldn't mind a new quake, but after how good DOOM came out I'd definitely like more of that first. I'm hoping for some single player DLC.
 

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It'd be good if they went on a more action horror vibe than pure action like Doom, a bit slower paced with more emphasis on lore, more than anything.
 
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I'm voting for a Doom sequel.
More Demons.
More guns.
More RIPPING AND TEARING.
More guts.
More gore.
More speed.
The story was also pretty interesting and I'd like to see where everything goes.