Poll: Which is superiour? A hive mind? Or the individual
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The individual. The hive mind can easily fall behind the wrong ideas. Also, generally the hive mind suppresses our own personal will of freedom.
I'd argue that a hive mind would easily be superior to an individual; after all, it 'is' a group of individual minds working together; only much more smoothly.
Assuming the hive-mind isn't a fucking failure, the hive-mind beats the individual. The individual has more freedoms, which leaves more opportunities to screw up, but also let's more ideas and beliefs and thoughts flourish. There's one centric thought process with the hive-mind. Everyone's right if they're right and everyone's wrong if they're wrong. Plus, if the central mind is lost or damaged, all members of the hive are screwed. If one person dies, life goes on.
Trick question - a hive mind *is* an individual (i.e. a closed mental system), just with many bodies and brains running simultaneously.
This. Its not about a brain controlling everyone, its about one person with the ability to have their fingers in billions of proverbial pies at once.Araksardet said:
In order to simply function, it would have to have the incredible thought power to process all those separate bodies working at once, meaning that it would likely also have a vastly superior cognitive and problem solving capabilities, meaning that it would almost certainly be innately wiser than an individual could be under any normal circumstance.
So yeah, superior brainpower, multiple bodies....
No contest, in my mind.
Man, a certain inside 'Scapist IRC joke is sooo relevant right now.
Both, would be perfect. Unique individuals who have their own experiences but can upload and share it with a whole human gestalt, it would give us greater appreciation of humanity and countless lifetimes worth of experiences and knowledge to draw from.
The idea I'm thinking of is something like Joe Haldeman's "Forever Peace".
The idea I'm thinking of is something like Joe Haldeman's "Forever Peace".
Diversity of ideas and opinions should be better. As long as the individuals are able to operate under some kind of order they would be more efficient and still creative.
Hive mind. Reaching a consensus like the Geth doesn't take too long, and it pools together many different thoughts and opinions to reach the best option. An individual only is looking out for itself, therefore could pick the best option for itself. If others are telling that individual about what to do, then that could be considered a 'hive mind' area.
An individual would make quicker decisions, and possibly more risky, whereas the hive mind would be more cautious and always pick the best answer.
Hive Mind wins.
An individual would make quicker decisions, and possibly more risky, whereas the hive mind would be more cautious and always pick the best answer.
Hive Mind wins.
Wait....are we talking hive mind vs a group of separate individuals with a collective brain power equal to that of the hive mind or a hive mind vs just an individual? Because if it's the latter, it's the hive mind, absolutely no question about it. All day, every day. The hive mind would presumably have vast more computing power than the individual and would curbstomp the individual any day of the week. It's not even fair.
If it's the former, I still go hive mind, but it's a little more fair this time around. Both sides may have the same computing power, but the hive mind would still have by far the quickest computing speed and efficiency. And fuck the tired old bullshit trope that a hive mind isn't creative. A hive mind would probably be vastly more creative than any of us.
If it's the former, I still go hive mind, but it's a little more fair this time around. Both sides may have the same computing power, but the hive mind would still have by far the quickest computing speed and efficiency. And fuck the tired old bullshit trope that a hive mind isn't creative. A hive mind would probably be vastly more creative than any of us.
A hive mind will never advance.
Hive minds look to expand and spread but don't ever get better or get better over a REALLY long time.
From a militaristic stand point I can understand how hive minds would be more able. But for all other times, individuals, because individuals adapt and evolve way quicker. Such as our science and technological growth inspired by individuals.
Besides individuals have developed hive mind characteristics when they all follow an individual. (Japan kamikazes for one) (Jonestown mass suicide for another)
Hive minds look to expand and spread but don't ever get better or get better over a REALLY long time.
From a militaristic stand point I can understand how hive minds would be more able. But for all other times, individuals, because individuals adapt and evolve way quicker. Such as our science and technological growth inspired by individuals.
Besides individuals have developed hive mind characteristics when they all follow an individual. (Japan kamikazes for one) (Jonestown mass suicide for another)