Poll: Which Was The Better Post-George Lucas Star Wars Movie?

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There is a disturbance in the force. There is a new Star Wars movie coming out soon. We need to settle one very important question before it comes out. Which was the better post-George Lucas Star Wars movie?

Personally, this question is easier than who to save from the whirlpool: Hitler or Gandhi? The Force Awakens is the worst Star Wars movie ever. I would watch The Phantom Menace for 24 hours straight before I watched TFA again. At least, Rogue One was entertaining and cleverly connected the prequel trilogy and the original trilogy. All the while, including references from Star Wars Rebels.

Simply put. Rogue One respected the material. While The Force Awakens was just a petty fan fiction that rewrote The New Hope with bland one-dimensional new characters. They also had low regards for the returning characters. They would really have to try to destroy Star Wars to make The Last Jedi worse than TFA.
 

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I enjoyed The Force Awakens more but I think Rogue One is the better movie. Its especially a better post George Lucas movie.

Because The Force Awakened ISN'T a post George Lucas movie. Its a reboot of A New Hope that just disguised itself as a sequel.
 

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They were both bad to mediocre. The Force Awakens was just a rehash of A New Hope with less interesting characters and a much less intimidating villain but the exact same overall plot. Except of course for the world building, which is still incredibly dumb for it being 30+ years after RoTJ.

Rogue One was a useless movie nobody asked for with badly developed characters and a meandering plot with no stakes (because we already know they succeeded, therefore there is no tension.

You know what the best SW stuff has been post Lucas? Rebels. Yeah, the kid's show.
 

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Rogue One because it was actually trying to tell a new story, not just copying A New Hope for the wittle kiddie widdies to watch and buy Legos from.
 

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I say Rogue One cos the plot wasn't a rehash despite knowing full well of the outcome. Even then it had the better battle scene. Lastly it was cool seeing the stuff we know (Stormtrooper and X-Wing) etc being made in the modern like seeing the space battle with the current cgi technology. TFA just had those trooper copying the Stormtooper and they kept the TIE Fighter despite how inferior they are against X-Wings.
 

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Force Awakens.

Neither of them are good, but while TFA apes A New Hope, it does it competently, and is reasonably enjoyable. Rogue One however is a mess - a lacklustre first two acts saved by a decent third one. Also helps that the TFA characters are more likable and memorable.
 

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Rogue One. It nestled itself into the original plot without just repeating it, and it showed us more of the Star Wars universe, which is one of the few outright cool things that the prequels did.

Rogue One felt like a movie that took risks and try to do something different while still feeling familiar. There were some dumb things in it, but alot less than TFA.
 

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After the Force Awakens, I was over Star Wars. I cemented in me the idea that the original weren't well written.

I never saw Rogue One in the Cinemas. I heard it wasn't a Star Wars movie. When I eventually got around to it, I was pleasantly surprised. Vader wasn't just posturing all the time. He was a badass. It made the rebellion seem fractious and desperate and on the verge of collapse.

I'm not going to see The Last Jedi in cinema. But I might listen to reviews now and watch it when (if) it gets on Netvlix
 

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TFA- at least characters were 3 dimensional and underwent change in that movie. Sure it's a rehash of ANH but it's still better than Rogue One, which of all the half dozen versions already out there of how the death star plans were stolen is probably the worst. Even X-Wing's version of hacking into Imperial relay satellites followed by a mad cross-galaxy chase to get the plans out safely was better written and more believable than RO. Also I know I'm in the minority here but I thought Vader and Leia's scenes were just awful. Pure fanservice, as was R2 and 3PO's scene which was even worse.

Had they stuck to Rogue One's original concept of it being more of an ensemble heist film like M:I or Oceans Eleven then it probably would have been way, WAY better.
 

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gigastar said:
McElroy said:
TFA because it was good enough to get a sequel. :^)
So good that it got a sequel before it ever actually entered production.
Nah, dude. Those were all rumours. They only started filming a sequel because the Rey action figures sold so damn well.
 

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Eh.
Rogue One at least tried to tell a new kind of story, but the characters sucked. I'll issue you the Qui-Gon Jinn challenge: describe any of the characters - if you remember their names - in any terms other than their physical appearence. And "determined" or "motivated" aren't character traits any more than "exists".
The Force Awakens is probably the better movie, even if it's just a retread of the original Star Wars.
 

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I enjoyed both films.
The Force Awakens was a solid way to 'modernize' the Star Wars universe without being complete shit like Star Trek and the first prequel film did.

However, Rouge One was just a better film.
It wasn't an updated rehash of the O.G. trilogy, but rather a 'heist' film set in the Star Wars universe that not only gave us a great film but also fixed one of the most glaring plot holes of the first film.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
The force awakened. Rouge one just sucked. It had a couple cool scenes but the characters were crap and the story actually damaged star wars cannon.
 

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Tanis said:
I enjoyed both films.
The Force Awakens was a solid way to 'modernize' the Star Wars universe without being complete shit like Star Trek and the first prequel film did.

However, Rouge One was just a better film.
It wasn't an updated rehash of the O.G. trilogy, but rather a 'heist' film set in the Star Wars universe that not only gave us a great film but also fixed one of the most glaring plot holes of the first film.
What plot hole? That a megaweapon had a weakness? Have you honestly never heard of designs for complicated machines having flaws before?
 

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I think the first thing a story needs to do to get me invested in it is make me care about the people, which Force Awakens did and Rogue One failed to do. Which isn't to say Force Awakens was great but at least I wasn't bored of it. Force Awakens actual plot was pretty much completely phoned in but at least I kinda want to know what happens to Rey, Finn and Kylo.

Rogue One ends with everyone dying and it left me completely cold which means somewhere along the line you failed. And it's not like the story itself is that interesting or that well told. I liked how some of the pieces that led into New Hope fell into place but the pacing was lacking. The last third was an action sequence that never seems to end and maybe I'm getting old but at some point I find that sort of thing exhausting.
 

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@Squilookle:
Couldn't put a freaking shield generator to cover a damn hole that could DESTROY YOUR WHOLE BASE?

It's a plot hole, it has to be...nobody building something THAT BIG would accidentally create a 'one hit kill' weakness.

Law of probability alone doesn't account for such a fuck up.

:p
 

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Rogue One, pretty much by a country mile. I actually quite enjoyed it. Didn't really like TFA at all. :\
 

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Rouge One. It was at least trying to do something different with a SW movie, even if it was shamelessly playing to the series roots as WW2 in space(or in this case, the WW2 commando movie with lasers). I enjoyed seeing Tarkin again(everyone forgets he was the real villain in ANH because Vader took over the spotlight in the sequels). I can even forgive it's messy first hour because the big raid setpiece at in the 2nd half was pretty damn fun to watch. While it may not be the best version of how the rebels got the death star plans, at least it's somewhat coherent, as opposed the half dozen other stories they've tried to weld together over the decades.

The Force Awakens was ok and no more. It felt like a whole plot reference to ANH, with a lot of really iffy bits (Rey can suddenly fix and fly the falcon, without having no time to learn anything about it. Even Han had a hard time keeping the thing working right and it was his baby). Kylon Ren somehow managed to out emo Anakin from the Prequels(and to this day, I can't even remember what he looks like. I keep picturing Dark Helmet from Spaceballs because Dark Helmet was more interesting). Honestly, I can't even remember most of it. Honestly the thing that impressed me most is that FINALLY someone learned that calling in Air Strikes is a legitimate battle tactic.