Poll: Who would you like to see as president?

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indyfan

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I've been seeing alot of mixed thoughts about the presidential elections in the forums, I wanna get some numbers going

so yea, vote
 

Tartarga

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obama of course mcain is old and probably doesnt even know where he is right now
 

Milkatron

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I have no problem with McCain, I think he'd do better than Bush (not exactly hard to do), but the term "President Palin" scares the unholy bejesus out of me.
 

k3v1n

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actually Ozzy Osbourne would probably do better if he was the US president

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afrophysics

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People are willing to ignore this:
bleachigo10 post=18.74461.834795 said:
obama of course mcain is old and probably doesnt even know where he is right now
Yet if I said "mccain of course obama is black and probably doesnt even know where he is right now" I wonder how quickly I'd get flamed. (Not that my one makes any sense, but you get my drift)
 

Tartarga

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afrophysics post=18.74461.834839 said:
People are willing to ignore this:
bleachigo10 post=18.74461.834795 said:
obama of course mcain is old and probably doesnt even know where he is right now
Yet if I said "mccain of course obama is black and probably doesnt even know where he is right now" I wonder how quickly I'd get flamed. (Not that my one makes any sense, but you get my drift)
lol your a racist, anyway mcain once said that the fundamentals of our economy where strong or somthing like that, and then 3 hours later said that our economy was in trouble, contradictory much
 

JMeganSnow

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bleachigo10 post=18.74461.834860 said:
lol your a racist, anyway mcain once said that the fundamentals of our economy where strong or somthing like that, and then 3 hours later said that our economy was in trouble
These two statements are not necessarily contradictory: fundamentals are different from the entire economy. It's quite easy to have strong fundamentals but still be in trouble.

Anyway, I don't want either of them. If I were to vote, it'd probably be for Yaron Brook or Andy Bernstein.
 

Tartarga

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JMeganSnow post=18.74461.834873 said:
bleachigo10 post=18.74461.834860 said:
lol your a racist, anyway mcain once said that the fundamentals of our economy where strong or somthing like that, and then 3 hours later said that our economy was in trouble
These two statements are not necessarily contradictory: fundamentals are different from the entire economy. It's quite easy to have strong fundamentals but still be in trouble.

Anyway, I don't want either of them. If I were to vote, it'd probably be for Yaron Brook or Andy Bernstein.
yeah your right but mcain has supported bush like 90% of the time and look what bush did to the country if mcain becomes presisdent i might have to commit suicide
 

ZTBar

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I would like to see Obama as president in the hopes that the Americans can crawl out of their dated ideologies. Yes, free markets are great but not for everything - like health insurance or social security. Any UNBIASED economist with a level-head will tell you this and that government investment isn't all that bad if it's used sparingly. "Never trust the government to do anything efficiently," but never trust the free market to do everything better.
 

Gxas

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Neither, I'd like to see someone capable of doing the job well. No candidate for the past 4 elections has had my utmost support. The only reason some of them got my vote was because I thought that they could do a better job than the other guy.
 

JMeganSnow

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bleachigo10 post=18.74461.834906 said:
yeah your right but mcain has supported bush like 90% of the time and look what bush did to the country if mcain becomes presisdent i might have to commit suicide
Um, what DID Bush do to the country, precisely? Increase government spending drastically, yes, but Democrats (including Obama) promise nothing different. Persecute terrorist states only half-heartedly, yes, but Democrats proposed to do precisely the same. Social security has not been reformed. Another great leap toward socialized health care was made with the prescription drug benefit. The separation of church and state issue was weakened with faith-based initiatives.

The current economic mess is the result of measures put in place during the CARTER administration (starting with the Community Reinvestment Act in 1977) and added to by every president since then.

So what has Bush done apart from be a mediocre placeholder like, say, Rutherford B. Hayes.
 

JMeganSnow

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ZTBar post=18.74461.834930 said:
I would like to see Obama as president in the hopes that the Americans can crawl out of their dated ideologies. Yes, free markets are great but not for everything - like health insurance or social security. Any UNBIASED economist with a level-head will tell you this and that government investment isn't all that bad if it's used sparingly. "Never trust the government to do anything efficiently," but never trust the free market to do everything better.
Wow, starting right off with argument from intimidation in a thread which has nothing to do with the free market. There's some moonbattery for you--using any political issue as a platform to launch a preemptive assault on Teh Hatted Enemie.

While some do support free markets out of misplaced Utilitarianism, I am not one of them. The real argument in favor of complete laissez-faire capitalism is not that the free market does it better (it does, *eventually* and in principle, but immediate individual cases will, of course, vary) but because government involvement in the economy is a violation of individual rights and leads invariably to dislocations, corruption, and evils without measure.

It is *not right* to forcibly take a man's property and use it for a purpose which he would denounce, no matter *what* that purpose is or *how* many people "benefit". Slavery is an absolute evil which should not be tolerated by any civilized human being. I suppose a preference for civilization and a human mode of living counts as a "bias".

Since neither candidate supports anything even remotely like a free market, though, I wonder what the purpose of this complaint can be.
 

mr mcshiznit

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Personally i want the best choice, the one who is for the people and has not lost touch with what it feels like to not have HUGE amounts of money at thier disposal. So yeah i'm shit out of luck.However i think both primary choices are capable leaders who can steer a country in the right direction. I must confess my doubts about Palin thought... somethings just not right with her. McCain's age also concerns me because like i said something just isn't right with Palin and i really am not comfortable with her as president if Mr. McCain has some health problems.
 

wewontdie11

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Arnold Schwarzenegger for president!

Nah really I'd like to see Obama be president. I don't know a great deal about either candidates policies but he's a much better speaker than McCain, and I think the way in which a man expresses himself speaks volumes about his character.

Also McCain is old and if he dies in office I would hate to see the state of America after 6 months with Sarah Palin in charge. *shudders*