Poll: Will we ever need a new generation of consoles at all? [NOT a "NOW" question]

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Susurrus

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Do we need a new generation of consoles?

Traditionally, consoles were a cheap, low tech option for playing games, with social elements. They were cheap because their features were limited, they didn't require all sorts of extra bits (just hook it up to your tv!), and they could be played with friends in the immediate vicinity.

Now, though, the situation is different. Computers, even gaming computers, are no longer that expensive. Whilst also still baffling to some, they are also considerably more versatile than consoles, as hardware can be swapped out and upgraded as necessary. Backwards compatibility is also not a problem (unlike European versions of some current-gen consoles).

Conversely, consoles are becoming more expensive. The PS3 in particular started retailing at £550. It is difficult to see that prices will shrink for the next generation, potentially making them pricier than a PC.

Equally, the pool of games limited to one console or another is shrinking. Whilst the Wii attracts a largely different gamer, and a different type of game, most releases available for PS3 or XBox are also available for the other, and the PC as well (even if Microsoft does try and force you to buy an XBox by not actually doing the port - see Halo 2).

Whilst I can't argue with the social aspects of games (and again, Wii games score highly), it's always true that a game is better with two consoles and two screens, than it is on a split screen, even when playing in the same room. Arguably, with computers more prevalent, it might be more likely/realistic for a household to have two computers than two consoles. It's also not difficult to see this aspect being transferred to computers - after all, the control system, which is the PC's biggest hindrance for this type of gaming, has seen console-style controllers being made available.

Furthermore, XBox and PS3 (and possibly Wii, I don't know), are moving towards having many of the same features as a PC. You can play music, watch films.. All they need is a keyboard, the ability to write documents, and they're practically a PC. The next generation can only bring them closer to a PC. In the circumstances, paying for a pricier PC that has a built-in obsolescence begins to seem less attractive.

Whilst economically, the creators of the consoles are OF COURSE going to release a new version, I wonder if the advantages that consoles used to bring are somewhat less than they are now.

TLDR: Computers are cheap, consoles are getting more expensive, increasingly they can do the same stuff.
Do we need a new console generation, or are they so like PCs now that it would be largely pointless?
 

DannyJBeckett

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I don't think we do. The PS3 and X-Box 360 are doing fine as they are. I know Nintendo have announced a new console, but frankly, the Wii was NEVER up to standard with PS3 and 360 in the first place.
 

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no, we need a new generation of developers, from what I can tell, GAMES are whats becoming out of date. Developers need to stop giving me games that last 3 months and then nothing. What the hell happened to games that kept me playing? games like Ocarina of time, MOTHER, Final Fantasy Crystal chronicles, and other amazing experiences?

I dont want a campaign and multiplayer, I want a game, with content, and LOCAL co-op.
I want a game with so much content, but without sacrificing plot or give me a half story so that DLC will be made.
I want witty dialogue, interesting character development, and no more god damn moral choice system.

I want a game, not a online matchmaker. not a create your own moral character, a game, with plot, story, content, and gameplay seemlessly merged well.

it wasnt a problem with PS2 games, why is it a problem now?
 
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Yeah, I reckon we do. There was a five year gap between the Xbox and the 360. It's been seven (nearly eight) years since the release of the 360 - and tech has advanced at a faster rate in those years. You can do a hell of a lot with consoles these days, admittedly, but the hardware that these consoles are doing it with is woefully out of date. I'd gladly fork out for a new console around about now.
 

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I voted no... There's nothing really on PC's that's beyond the spec of current consoles that interests me enough to upgrade my computer - and if I'm not willing to upgrade my computer for the games currently out there, I have no interest in a new console generation.

Though will likely be getting a new graphics card and more memory for the release of Skyrim... Though really can't decide if I want it for PC or console - I don't play mods but I like tampering around in the construction sets... May end up getting it for both console and PC like I did with Oblivion.
 

GiantRaven

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I'm going to vote yes. I'd like to see a new generation of consoles that focuses not on improving graphical quality, but rather improving the capability to create huge worlds and complex AI.
 

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I'd like to think that after awhile the consoles that we're using will become obsulete as technology evolves around us, so eventually, yes.
 

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I think we don't because practically the only thing that could be improved is the graphics, and I'd prefer developers to work on better fun than on better visuals.

Susurrus said:
(even if Microsoft does try and force you to buy an XBox by not actually doing the port - see Halo 2).
Do you mean Halo 3? Halo 2 definitely came out for Vista.
 

Susurrus

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Tharwen said:
I think we don't because practically the only thing that could be improved is the graphics, and I'd prefer developers to work on better fun than on better visuals.

Susurrus said:
(even if Microsoft does try and force you to buy an XBox by not actually doing the port - see Halo 2).
Do you mean Halo 3? Halo 2 definitely came out for Vista.
Well it did, but Halo 2 came out years later for PC than XBox (Halo 3 was nearly out).
 

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Susurrus said:
TLDR: Computers are cheap, consoles are getting more expensive, increasingly they can do the same stuff.
Do we need a new console generation, or are they so like PCs now that it would be largely pointless?
I disagree with that cheap part as I just built a new gaming rig for $1700AU, though granted, I could've done it for only $1000 but I will not deny that consoles are a cheaper and simpler way to satisfying your gaming needs (I also have a 360, so I should know). I think we will need a new console generation in the next two or three years to facilitate 4 player co-op on a single console, PhysX, and better graphics (Borderlands is a good example of a game that sometimes struggles graphically on consoles), among other things.

We don't need a new console gen this year, but I think that we will need to start thing about it very soon.
 

Susurrus

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Hammeroj said:
I'm sorry, but this is not a serious question. The consoles are so incredibly limited when it comes to memory and processing power, it makes me sad someone would actually think things won't get much better.
Yeah. Read the actual post, instead of just the title.

Consoles are good - at the time of the last generation they were the same / slightly better than PCs in terms of processing power.

My point was that increasingly they do everything a PC does - and vice versa. When consoles were lower priced, that was attractive. Now, not so much.
 

Casual Shinji

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The games of this generation of consoles are already constrained by their overly bloated budgets.

I honestly fear what a new generation will do to games.

I wouldn't mind the PS3 and 360 staying on for another 10 years.