Poor sportsmanship or is anything permissible to win

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Charles_Martel

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A Brazilian woman soccer player fakes an injury to attempt to run time off the clock.

I think she should have been kicked out of the game and if Brazil had won she should have been suspended the rest of the tournment. That's cheating.

I understand some might feel differently. Does anyone think as long you can get away with it and it helps you and your team to win it's ok?
 

ChildofGallifrey

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Most timed sports stop the clock when there's an injury to prevent this sort of thing. I agree, it's cheating, pure and simple.
 

ElectroJosh

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Its cheating but unless it is properly monitored it will keep happening. That goes for a lot of sports. Its a real shame but its also one of the reasons I get fed up with Football (as in Soccer) - there is a lot to recommend the game but all too often high-profile matches are decided or heavily influenced by people milking penalties.
 

_Depression

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Well, there's a difference between doing whatever it takes to win and blatantly cheating the way Erika did in the clip you showed. There's a saying in the sports world that goes something like "You play to win the game." Unfortunately, sometimes when someone plays to win, they are made out to be bad sports, but rarely is it because of blatant cheating - it's usually because the player or team in question is playing in such a way that others find it offensive. Let me give a few examples:

Camping in an FPS game - Yes, it's not quite a physical sport, but it's a strategy that is looked down upon in competitive play; despite the anger it incurs, though, it's still a valid strategy.

Running up the score - The New England Patriots football team in 2008 was well known for running up the score on their opponents, ones that they had soundly beaten. It caused a lot of animosity both from opposing teams and from the general public, but again it was a valid strategy - think about this: In a similar situation a couple weeks ago, the New York Mets baseball team was winning by a large margin over their opponent, but in the later innings their opponents began to close the score gap. In the end, the Mets won but by a much closer margin than they may have, and one of their players was even quoted that at one point in the game where he had a chance to possibly give the Mets a bigger lead, he chose not to because he didn't want to be a bad sport. That type of "sportsmanship" almost cost the Mets their win.

"Excessive" Force - this one is trickier to find a breaking point for; on the one hand, doing whatever it takes to win should mean trying your hardest, but on the other hand you don't want people getting hurt for no reason. Most sports have rules against certain acts of force, but even when someone plays within the rules there is controversy, like in this case: In the 1970 baseball All-Star Game, there was a play at home plate in which Pete Rose (a man infamous for his aggressive baserunning) smashed into the catcher and ended up injuring him; many people were upset at how aggressively Rose tackled the catcher, despite the fact that he did so within the rules of baseball. There was a similar play earlier this year, where Scott Cousins injured Buster Posey in a collision at home plate - again, a legal play. The play isn't an anomaly, it happens on occasion, but injury isn't common, and when it happens people are sure to raise concern. At what point should "sportsmanship" override playing to win?


Okay, so I went on a tangent, but my point is: cheating is not acceptable in any form, but playing to win the game should be more important than sportsmanship in any other case. That's my opinion.
 

Entreri481

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well, I'm not knowledgeable regarding the game or soccer, however I wouldn't mind a more detailed definition of "poor sportsmanship". I played football for five years, every play I would hit someone, even if I didn't need to, I'd play with aggression and injured others, however, it was all within the rules, I stopped at the whistle. I think that's the difference between playing aggressive and being unsportsmanlike.

In this scenario, its the rules that need to be changed, why not stop the clock when someone is injured, if multiple players are faking, then increase the risk of doing so, deter them, if they fake, automatic red card, keep track of their history, the more times they fake, the greater the penalty is increased. The game doesn't need to re invent the wheel, just look at any modern judicial system.
 

AtheistConservative

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Sober Thal said:
This is common place in sports, especially Soccer and Basketball.

They always fake injuries.

They should be fined by the league.
I've often thought that if after a video review they found a player to be completely lying, i.e. claiming a groin hit when contact was made on the outside of the thigh, they should allow the player that was accused of fouling with actually carrying out the foul, penalty free.
 

soultrain117

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Sober Thal said:
This is common place in sports, especially Soccer and Basketball.

They always fake injuries.

They should be fined by the league.
Well the problem with that is you cannot be sure if they are faking. I agree she was faking in that video, but what about that 1% that aren't faking. For example what if she actually did just get a really bad cramp I've had that happen. I was walking (this was after a 6 mile run or about 10k for anyone not in America) and all of the sudden I couldn't move my leg. I had to lay on the ground for about 3 minutes then I got up and about 30 seconds later my leg felt fine. The point is you can't always tell when someone is faking so fining them is not an answer.

I think it should be something along the lines of if you take up more then 3 minutes of the game in the first half for an injury you are out for the game no punishment beyond that if it was faked. If it is the second half same thing, but if it is determined that the injury was probably faked you are out for the next game as well. This would also prevent people from returning to a game that are potentially injured. This also is a severe enough punishment to discourage faking and at the same time it doesn't hurt the 1% of people who aren't faking that badly. Ya it's annoying but it is a one game deal so they'll get over it.
 

zehydra

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The point of a game is that it has rules, restrictions. Without rules or restrictions, then it is not a game at all, it is just free for all whatever.

Therefore, anyone who breaks any of the rules in order to meet the conditions of victory, has not "won" the same game as the one who is playing by the rules.

It is impossible to actually win by cheating
 

Tiger Sora

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It's a sport you play by the rules. You play fairly to. Doing something like this really is quite sad. More backlash on this, this needs more fuel on the fire int he sports world. Not cool bro.