Possibly a loop-hole about the rapture?

[Bunclobo]

So, to my understanding today was to be the rapture.

I'm no quite dead, so I'll go ahead and assume that's not going to happen. But as I sieved through the threads, looking at what I could, a little idea occurred to me.
As far as I know, the bible says nobody will ever know the day of doomsday, rapture, apocalypse, whatever. "No man shall know the day." "Beware false prophets." "Not even angels know the day."

Well, imagine we had a Christan, such as the one who predicted today as the rapture. And that this Christan predicted tomorrow to be the rapture, and he believed with all his will and determination that it was going to happen. Say it didn't happen, as many would expect, life goes on, blah blah blah. But say he was right? It was the rapture, he was correct? Well, he couldn't be, could he? it contradicts the whole false prophets thing, and since god is supposed to be infallible, the rapture would not happen on that day.

So, if every day, there was someone who predicted a rapture the next day, with reasoning and belief, it couldn't happen without contradicting the bible. So, if someone predicted a rapture every day, we could all avoid it happening at all, right?

(Though, I myself am an atheist and don't think any rapture will happen ever, I mean no offence to anyone who may have been offended by the denial of a rapture ever happening)

Edit1: Well, I'm sure I could argue and reason to sway people into agreement, but I wasn't that committed to the idea myself. But hey, if anyone thinks they're up to the challenge of arguing *for* the idea go ahead, it'd be far more interesting than arguing against. Thanks for the posts guys/gals

 

[Flare Phoenix]

You can be wrong a million times, but if you're ever right once you look like a bloody genius.

 

[Lukeje]

The Bible says that no man can know the date of the rapture. One can predict the rapture happening on a day without knowing. The rapture could happen today completely coincidentally.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

Being a Christian myself, I consider it like this.

Any idiot can be lucky on a guess, but that doesn't mean that he'll actually know. You can predict an earthquake in San Fransisco to happen every day, but that doesn't mean you'll be right. Eventually, when one happens there you may have said it would happen, but you didn't really know.

 

[RobCoxxy]

You can be wrong a million times, but if you're ever right once you look like a bloody genius.

Only if it's attempt number one, after a million guesses it's labelled as a fluke.

 

[Meggiepants]

*sigh* Does no one realize the Rapture did happen? We just don't meet God's standards.

That's right, the almighty doesn't want any of us.

 

[JUGGERNAUTBITCH]

there is a differance between prophacy's and predictions. I am no christian (muslim) but no you did not find a loophole.

 

[manythings]

You can be wrong a million times, but if you're ever right once you look like a bloody genius.

You don't even have to be right, people will twist the truth for you. Look at Nostradamus for fucks sake.

OT: You're mistaken about the Rapture. When it happens the Righteous and etc. are take from the world and brought to Heaven so thinking the fact that you are alive is a sign it hasn't happened is incorrect. You won't die on the Rapture if you weren't taken up but it will be a good time to start panicking since the Devil himself is on the way. Also, if I remember correctly, the entire End takes place over a period of years with specific milestones to tell you it's happening. I'm pretty sure the Rapture takes place in the fifth year.

 

[Jmurray21]

*sigh* Does no one realize the Rapture did happen? We just don't meet God's standards.

That's right, the almighty doesn't want any of us.

Actual if the rapture did happen we would know. The bible says that every man shall see him coming. It's a safe bet that it didn't happen

 

[AbstractStream]

Being a Christian myself, I consider it like this.

Any idiot can be lucky on a guess, but that doesn't mean that he'll actually know. You can predict an earthquake in San Fransisco to happen every day, but that doesn't mean you'll be right. Eventually, when one happens there you may have said it would happen, but you didn't really know.

Same. There is no loop-hole.
I'm not gonna call the guy that predicted it today a "loony," but he was just wrong.

*sigh* Does no one realize the Rapture did happen? We just don't meet God's standards.

That's right, the almighty doesn't want any of us.

Actual if the rapture did happen we would know. The bible says that every man shall see him coming. It's a safe bet that it didn't happen

You are correct sir!

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Well, it's 6pm in USA, and no rapture, so lets incite ridicule!

 

[Not-here-anymore]

[Mat 25:13] Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

All the things about no-one knowing the day refer to the second coming of Christ. Not the apocalypse itself. So assuming that Christ doesn't deign to see in the Rapture, scripturally speaking it could still happen.

Actually speaking though, it's probably a tad more unlikely.

 

[Kathinka]

and it's not like the bible should be threated as truth anyway. people everywhere on our decisivly-older-then-5000-years and suspiciously non-disk-shaped planet should slowly start to realize that..

 

[FallenTraveler]

*sigh* Does no one realize the Rapture did happen? We just don't meet God's standards.

That's right, the almighty doesn't want any of us.

This makes the most sense of anything I've heard. Other than that Matthew quote...

I actually really like that idea... I will use it

OT: At first I thought you were going to discuss the impossibility of the rapture happening on a specific date since, in all parts of the world it is constantly a different time. Technically we should be going off of the Greenwich mean time... Either way they "converted" the old calendar... that doesn't make sense to me at all.

but yes, I think it would be a fun loophole to guess every day, the thing is, someone probably already does that, some guy just sits there and says "tomorrow is gonna be the rapture, I can feel it" and he's always wrong.

 

[lcyw20]

Harold Camping did the math, except he assigned words rather arbitrarily to numbers... Oh whatever, read and laugh/weep/get angry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_end_times_prediction

God is infallible, but man is not, nor is the Holy Bible that while are supposedly God's words, have been processed by imperfect man. You just have to see how this Camping fellow came to his conclusions that it will be more than obvious the roots of his argument are more fluid and slippery than a baby's snot. I may be Christian, but I follow common sense and compassion first, mythology second.

It's a bloody scam! I am not surprised but am still flabbergasted that people will buy it up. People are so gullible. A testimony to that is when everybody believed in the rumour that salt will cure radiation poisoning after the Fukoshima nuclear accident. No it won't, and the your blood pressure will soar, your kidney's knackered, and your wallet emptied by the hyper-inflated price of salt.

Hello any potential alien invaders out there, we are so easy to conquer, because you just need to spread the right rumours and more than enough of us will suck it up without question to pave the way for our future rulers, or maybe that's precisely the reason you didn't want to bother with us?

 

[funguy2121]

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No, the rapture hasn't failed to happen because someone said it was going to happen (I'm confused. Are there pieces missing from your logic?). The rapture hasn't happened because it's an invention of modern-day, post-industrial-revolution Christians. It's not even in the bible. The bible says that Jesus will return when there are wars and earthquakes. Oh my god, that's happening right now! So every time there's a war or an earthquake, the most naive christians say "See? You better get right with god," because apparently they aren't well versed in history.

 

[Keava]

The reasoning behind this loophole is quite similar to the Hangman Paradox which means, following the logic, that the supposed rapture could happen at any point despite the predictions or lack of them.

The thing with all the end of world predictions is that they do not follow any form of logic. They are simple abuse of random numbers, much like statistics. Math is such wonderful tool that with enough effort you can come with any result by adding, multiplying, subtracting, dividing and so on. Given enough numbers you can eventually come to any result you desire.


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[PatSilverFox]

It's supposed to happen at 5-6pm eastern standard time, it hasn't even happened yet.
derp

 

[Chatato]

Or you could think that seeing as only the Christians were to be taken maybe that means that no christians are without sin and we're all going to hell regardless of who we are or what our beliefs are?