preemptory thread before next week's inevitable "why are girls depicted as they are in gaming."

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Piecewise

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Now I?m writing this for the sheer fact that repetitious threads tend to annoy me, and while I?m aware of the irony I?m hoping that maybe this will quell the fem-gamer posts for a bit. As per why girls are depicted as they are in games, that is the blonde haired, huge boobed, sparkle farting, string for armor, carpet munching action girls, there are several possibilities depending on the game.



1. Soft core porn
Look at DOA volleyball. Seriously, look at it. Anyone saying that it exists for a reason other then breast physics has their head so far up team ninja?s ass that they?re actually French kissing their uvula. It and many other games and characters exist only for that element of ?hey look 12 year olds, there are boobs and shit.?. Ivy, often exemplified as all that is wrong with gaming girls, is a great example of this. She was never meant to be a strong woman character, or at least no more so then the female lead in any adult movie. She?s eye candy, big breasted, dominatrix, vaguely British, eye candy. That or team ninja is legendarily bad at writing her and all the other characters in the SC series which leads me neatly to my next point

2. Badly written
Lets look at this logically. Big breasted blonde haired women could actually be good heroes if they were written correctly. Hell, some of those strong, brave, and sexually conservative girls have to also be large breasted and have questionable fashion. Law of averages demands it. But the main problem here is that, 99.999% of the time, if the main character does look like she?s smuggling watermelons, then she?s actually cleverly trying to hide how bad the story is in her canyon like cleavage. Its almost like the chicken and the age riddle. Which came first, horrendous storylines and dialogue or the massive mammary glands on all non-men. The truth is that it was probably very early in gaming?s childhood that it was discovered that as long as the women pixels were sexy, that the story and game play could suck cocks and 12 year olds would still buy it as though buying a 64-bit hooker.

3. Its easier
That?s basically it. Its actually amazing in its simplicity. It is much easier to write a hooker or a big action man then a human character. Endless one-liners and sexual innuendo are as easy to write as fortune cookies and if it sells just as well then what?s the point in making an effort? In reality its also a double standard. You can?t really complain about the indignities of your sex while also buying games that depict all men as muscle bound, misogynistic, emotionally dead bullet magnets and still have a valid point. If you want your sex to be depicted better, don?t just boycott games that depict women badly, boycott games that depict any sex badly. Otherwise you?re both hypocritical and ineffective.

Now while I may sound like I?m taking a rather bitter outlook on this, I am actually totally against the shallow female character. They degrade characters as a whole, male and female. Look at Jade from Beyond good and evil, she?s beautiful, charming and realistically proportioned. She?s a human character, and that?s the point. Mononoke, Nausica and dozens of other female characters in film and gaming have been great, regardless of looks. Why? Because they were well written and human characters capable of emotions beyond the extremes of crying and killing.

SO next time female gamers here feel like casting the blame on our misogynistic ways, rather cast the blame on the general disregaurd for story that seems to be propagating the market as of late. Cast the blame on the people who write the shitty characters, male and female, and take a stand against stereotyping of both races rather then jumping straight to Misandry and blaming all the problems in the gaming world on testicles. it?s a lack of imagination, not a lack of estrogen that breeds more Lora Crofts and Duke Nukems.


I will now field both questions and the flaming ovaries of any women my truthfulness has offended.

-piecewise.
 

ckeymel

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Well written and valid points. I really do think that, giving it time, the game industry will start to change the typical male/female characters. It's just the process of evolving, and once the industry stops concentrating on improving the look/realism of games, perhaps we will start to see a focus on improving storylines and characters.
 
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ckeymel post=362.71760.735921 said:
Well written and valid points. I really do think that, giving it time, the game industry will start to change the typical male/female characters. It's just the process of evolving, and once the industry stops concentrating on improving the look/realism of games, perhaps we will start to see a focus on improving storylines and characters.
I think you're living in a different world to the rest of us, but maybe.
 

goodman528

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lol, I wasn't asking for a repeat of the discussion already covered by Mudora's thread.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.71383#721456
 

Piecewise

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seriously, ignore this, if you guys take it as whining I seriously don't want another thread like this clogging the front page.
 

Sccye

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Nice post, and some good arguments.

Still, as annoying as it must be to have to wade through the same argument every week, I don't think that quite justifies calling anyone who happens to question the portrayal of gaming females as "the cackling banshees of fem-gaming".
 

Piecewise

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seriously, ignore this, if you guys take it as whining I seriously don't want another thread like this clogging the front page.
 

Piecewise

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seriously, ignore this, if you guys take it as whining I seriously don't want another thread like this clogging the front page.
 

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I agree, but I don't see Ivy as everything that's wrong with gaming girls, obviously she has always been fan service which is most blatantly obvious in SC4, but I'm talking about the time of SC2 when she was still fan service but out of all the character's in Soul Calibur she had a decent storyline and personality, granted she's eye candy but she's one of the better SC characters.
 

Piecewise

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seriously, ignore this, if you guys take it as whining I seriously don't want another thread like this clogging the front page.
 

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I like women with a little fat, it's healthy and you can wrestle-em. :)
Disclaimer aside, my suggested reasons why it is the way it is;

1. Oft-repeated "Sex Sells." There is a financial incentive for these -businesses- to appeal to biology, ESPECIALLY the biology socially constructed and warped throughout decades of advertising and elitism.
2. Paraphrasing you-know-who, [Action games] are under the unspoken obligation to "bling out" the ['Action!' characters]. A fond and billowy level-headed lass might seem out-of-place in a firefight.
3. VG characters are rarely intended to be role-models, most of them behave terribly regardless of gender.
4. Clipping issues that invariably occur when the character model is big, making them thin and of relatively uniform dimensions is design efficiency while collisions are still getting the bugs ironed out.
 

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Piecewise post=9.71760.736152 said:
ThePlasmatizer post=9.71760.736069 said:
I agree, but I don't see Ivy as everything that's wrong with gaming girls, obviously she has always been fan service which is most blatantly obvious in SC4, but I'm talking about the time of SC2 when she was still fan service but out of all the character's in Soul Calibur she had a decent storyline and personality, granted she's eye candy but she's one of the better SC characters.
true but in all fairness, the sc character stories are all rather cliche and silly.
Well that's a given, I haven't seen many fighters with a serious plot unfortunately.

Another thing is while the male ideal of wanting to play the heroic muscle bound hero is shallow, the model look that seems prevalent in female characters choices is just as shallow,so it's all the same.
 

TaboriHK

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There's a reason all girls are sexualized in games. It's because 95% of the gaming audience has a penis. Simple as that.
 

Piecewise

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seriously, ignore this, if you guys take it as whining I seriously don't want another thread like this clogging the front page.
 

The Wooster

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The piece is well written and makes some valid points, that's good.
The title and suggestion that female gamers should just shut up about the things that piss them off, not so much.