Provocative behavior in trans

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Duster

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Across the 15 or so trans i've known personally and the two i've dated, i'd like to say that the estrogen they take does impact their behavior significantly. As one elegantly put it, it is a second puberty.

However, is such behavior reprimand-able? It is usually only over a period of several years while they take hormones, and not directly their fault. Most people let it slide, so we have a putrid, festering exile communities that await, namely the dark depths of tumblr.

However if some reprimand where in place or at least warning and advice were embraced in such communities, perhaps trans wouldn't need the exclusion with which they are treated. Does anybody else feel the same way, or am I just ranting?
 

The Lunatic

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I think some people are just assholes and demand attention regardless of whatever else is going on with them.

It seems like a lot of these communities certainly believe an attitude of nastiness towards anyone they disagree with is acceptable, and this is becoming rather more common on the internet too.

It's rather unfortunate, but, given the backgrounds and abuse these people suffer, it's unsurprising that some "Act out", but, it's not an acceptable way to act, and I don't believe that special treatment is anything other than condescending.
 

Queen Michael

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Honestly, I don't see why taking estrogen would make it okay. Women contain estrogen and are oppressed, but that doesn't make it okay for them to flip out, right?
 

BrokenTinker

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Duster said:
Across the 15 or so trans i've known personally and the two i've dated, i'd like to say that the estrogen they take does impact their behavior significantly. As one elegantly put it, it is a second puberty.

However, is such behavior reprimand-able? It is usually only over a period of several years while they take hormones, and not directly their fault. Most people let it slide, so we have a putrid, festering exile communities that await, namely the dark depths of tumblr.

However if some reprimand where in place or at least warning and advice were embraced in such communities, perhaps trans wouldn't need the exclusion with which they are treated. Does anybody else feel the same way, or am I just ranting?
This is a pile of a poo that you don't poke with a 10ft pole professionally. Way before all the obsession about trans, outreach workers were just told to "deal with it". That being said, it isn't as bad once they are confronted with it to make them realized they are acting in a antisocial manner (not sure if that term is still being used nowadays). But I only encounter this from the teen-young adult bracket, and I could count them on one hand.

The problem is that trans are prone to mental illness+stress in term of statistics, so while HRT does contribute some changes, it really ties into their mental health and its state. The older people doing the transition seems to handling it better, but this MIGHT be selection bias since the first hand encounters I have doesn't even reach the triple digit. I loathe to use anecdotal reference as well for cases like this since we simply don't know how to apply it to the general trans population, a population is already small.

So if it's reprimandable, I'd say it depends on the attitude in your area. You have to note the difference in attitude and how open the people within that community are in term of discussions. In some places, you can discuss things like the trans letting their partner know ahead of time that they are trans and no one would bat an eye. In other places, the mere mention of disclosure within a relationship will have people screaming at you for being a bigot and all the oppression and misogyny and shit.

For your own safety and sanity, check how vicious and militant the advocates are within your area before you attempt to reprimand. Personally, I haven't had to deal with the sort of problem since my day of being an outreach worker is long behind me, but I find that individual trans (I know, small sample size, so I could be wrong here) are generally okay to deal with. It's the advocates that you'd have to worry about since they are more often than now the type to throw accusations and froth at the mouth.