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happyninja42

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So, I'm watching the Abridged of SAO, by Something Witty Entertainment, which is fucking hilarious by the way. But, I'm confused by something that I'm not sure is ever explained in the real show.

How are their bodies surviving for months? I mean, they mention several times, that they eat food while in the game, but that doesn't translate to actual food in the real world. So, if they are forcibly plugged into the game, and can't unplug, how are they staying alive? The show implies they've been in there for a length of time that is comparable to the real world, so...yeah, what gives?

Is it actually like TRON, where what is several days of adventure for Flynn was a micro-second or something?
 

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I found this via a two second google search; https://www.reddit.com/r/swordartonline/comments/2nqkhp/how_do_players_stay_alive_without_eatingdrinking/
Google. You might want to look into it for future use.

Anyway... Apparently this wasn't in the anime but mentioned in the novels, when the game first launched, the creator allowed players a short grace period to go offline to travel to a hospital to be connected to feeding tubes, moved over bedpans, etc. for their real world needs while they returned to the online game.
 

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....so then only the most insane idiots, after being told they would actually die, decided to log back in and play the game?

ok well, I have zero empathy for any of them at this point then, if they were given a chance to escape, and voluntarily went back in
 

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The connecting device would have killed them immediately if they didn't return to the game by the end of the grace period.

Try to remove it? You die.
Don't log back into the game? You die.
 

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inu-kun said:
You know, I always fought it was strange that they can't use friggin aluminum foil (or some other similar material) to block the brain being microwaved, seems like such a simple solution to the problem.
Aluminium goes a bit odd in a microwave.
 

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I think they mentioned in the anime how every player seem to go comatose for awhile and theorized that it happened when their bodies were being moved to a hospital.

The devices also had battery backup.
 

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The one thing I want to know is if the devices were existent before the game, how not a single assembly line worker, not a single engineer, not a single computer scientist, not a single product safety officer in the government, not a single person *at all* pointed to the mcguffin that fries brains and said; "Seems like an odd thing to put in there..."? Surely they would have been built with some type of output limiter ... like, you know ... because of a lightning strike, computer virus, anything that may have triggered a lethal dose of radiation beforehand? It's not like it causes significant burns just using it normally, so why does the output need to go so high to begin with? It's not like it wouldn't be in any company's interests not to install a basic safety measure.

Not only that, if they ignored it a competitor who wanted to market their headset could just point and say; "Obvious design flaw is obvious. Try ours." If the HTC Vive could easily explode in your face, causing catastrophic eye injury and setting your head on fire, would you still use it?

I can't help but feel all the people who used this device and died deserve a Darwin award.

The other thing I want to know is .... why bother going back to school when you would have received a metric fuckton in the class action against the makers of the headset, the game company, product safety bureau, basically anyone involved with anything even tangentially related to it?

Relax, quit your job, live on your investments. Take it easy. You deserve it. 300 million yen per person seems fair for the turmoil, loss of years, and complete and utter failure of any regulatory services branch.

Also, don't give me some nonsense that none of them would have sued. Not a single one brought forward a class action? Not one?
 

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Addendum_Forthcoming said:
The other thing I want to know is .... why bother going back to school when you would have received a metric fuckton in the class action against the makers of the headset, the game company, product safety bureau, basically anyone involved with anything even tangentially related to it?

Relax, quit your job, live on your investments. Take it easy. You deserve it. 300 million yen per person seems fair for the turmoil, loss of years, and complete and utter failure of any regulatory services branch.

Also, don't give me some nonsense that none of them would have sued. Not a single one brought forward a class action? Not one?
The families did sue the company Argus, but it filed for bankruptcy so poof, there goes the money. And even if there was something left, I doubt they would have gotten much considering that amount would be spread of thousands of people.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
....so then only the most insane idiots, after being told they would actually die, decided to log back in and play the game?

ok well, I have zero empathy for any of them at this point then, if they were given a chance to escape, and voluntarily went back in
They didn't voluntarily go back in. At all. They were still in the game the whole time, they just were comatose inside it while being shifted. I know there are a lot of inconsistencies in the series, but that isn't one of them.
 

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Apparently, the bad guy also told people outside what was going on, so the pathetically small launch population could get moved to hospitals and the like during a grace period. I'm mostly impressed by the Japanese healthcare system, who's hospitals could take in 10k plus new fully comatose patients who needed constant Internet connections without much of a problem.

That said, considerably less impressed with the quality of Japanese engineers and computer specialists though. Buncha kids stuck in a game for years and you can't find a way to break them out despite having beta models, schematics, and the company who freaking made the things right there? Shameful.
 

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Michel Henzel said:
The families did sue the company Argus, but it filed for bankruptcy so poof, there goes the money. And even if there was something left, I doubt they would have gotten much considering that amount would be spread of thousands of people.
Lawyers weren't very imaginative. There's government bureaus that would have fucked up, you could directly confiscate the finances of lead technicians, managers, and directors (who, let's face it, are all guilty as sin), insurance companies, etc.

If someone tossed me the class action, I'd directly name thousands of people and corporate entities (and their pets) .... I'd cast that net as wide as I could. I would go after everybody even tangentially related to it. Because a conspiracy of this size would require 10s of thousands of people not doing the right thing, or blatantly responsible for it. Just because that one company goes down doesn't mean there's no one left to go for a pound of flesh.

When people pull out a class action they generaly don't just cite one entity to the exclusion of everyone else. Same way the Enron collapse didn't suddenly make Ken Lay free to dust off his hands. And let's face it, the Enron collapse is nowhere near as bad as willful mass murder.

The company filing 'bankruptcy' would save few people at all not merely from litigation, but prosecution for gross negligence, conspiracy to commit murder, etc. Japan has the death penalty. I'm surprised it wasn't chalked up as the worst case of terrorism the country has ever seen, and all the inner circles within the company weren't promptly shot.

As far as I can tell Japan does have proceeds of crime confiscation for the purpose of victim compensation. The company might declare bankruptcy, what is stopping the victims from taking the wealth of criminals who made money from obvious criminal venture that creates their victimization?
 

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I recall Asuna bringing up the fact that everyone went blank for a short period of time. She theorized that everyone in the game was moved to hospitals. She also worried that they may not live much longer. Hell, at the end, we see Kirito stumble down a hallway using a stand as he can barely walk.

I'm not saying SAO is a masterpiece, but the issue you bring up gets addressed.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Its one of many plot holes in sao.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Metalix Knightmare said:
Worgen said:
Its one of many plot holes in sao.
Except there were about 5 people above you explaining it.
Except the explanation doesn't really make sense and was never stated in the anime. It's a bad show, but its full of wish fulfillment.
 

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Worgen said:
Metalix Knightmare said:
Worgen said:
Its one of many plot holes in sao.
Except there were about 5 people above you explaining it.
Except the explanation doesn't really make sense and was never stated in the anime. It's a bad show, but its full of wish fulfillment.
Except it was explained and showed in the anime. Complain about it all you wish, but make sure it's actual problems.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
MiskWisk said:
Worgen said:
Metalix Knightmare said:
Worgen said:
Its one of many plot holes in sao.
Except there were about 5 people above you explaining it.
Except the explanation doesn't really make sense and was never stated in the anime. It's a bad show, but its full of wish fulfillment.
Except it wasn't. In the anime all it said was that the head pieces would microwave your brain if you took them off. I think it said that people ended up getting taken to hospitals by loved ones or something in the second part or something. But thats still a lame plot hole.

Except it was explained and showed in the anime. Complain about it all you wish, but make sure it's actual problems.
 

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The anime mentioned the transition to hospitals, the battery stuff and the grace period.

The whole setup is not very convincing, but it is not missing.