RAGE 2 going to be better open world game than RDR2?

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B-Cell said:
RDR2 im waiting for PC version.
So once again we have a situation where you shit all over a game that you didn't play, and at the same time you're praising a game that isn't even out yet. To top it off, you're comparing the two. And if you hate Rockstar's games so much, why on god's green Earth are you waiting for the PC version?
 
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Everyone on this website already knows you don't like Rockstar games, and you use hyperbole to reinforce those views by saying they're just 100% boring and overrated and that's how everyone else should feel, and you simply can't fathom why the games are so damn popular.
I hate rockstar games because they only create a great world and animation but gameplaywise fall flat and not fun at all. rockstar has talent. Max payne 3 is best rockstar game ever when it comes to core gameplay elements. but they decide not to use this talent and release same done to death open world formula.

what they do after RDR2 is they can make excellent Max Payne 4 but they will not. they will make bully 2 then GTA6.

DeliveryGodNoah said:
Look, Rockstar games just aren't for you, pal. And Rockstar has little reason to change that. They have no reason to pander to you because they're obscenely successful making the games they are now. They have a huge fanbase that already love how their games play and feel, and it's obvious that you don't. You don't need to make more threads comparing their games to other games.
I liked RDR1 but it was just 7/10 game. not OMG amazing. there was too much flaws. especially herding cows missions were awful. RDR2 im waiting for PC version. i only liked RDR1 was solely for western setting and not many developer do it. COJ gunslinger is 1000 times more fun than RDR and its because of core gameplay elements.

the point is. critics cannot criticize rockstar games. most of professional reviewers are either paid for 10/10 reviews or they fear that they may lost their jobs. as a result i rely more on youtubers reviews.

the reason GTA series sell so well and success not because of quality. but because its brand name and even many non gamers know what GTA is and they play. many of my friends who barely play video games only play GTA5, FIFA, and dota all the time. they dont even know what red dead is. let alone any of other games.

remove GTA name. remove rockstar name. then tell us if they get more than 7. absolutely not. neither would sell 100 million copies.
Call of Juarez's core gameplay mechanic, and only gameplay mechanic, was to shoot for 4 hours. Yes, it was fine gameplay, but it also wasn't juggling 14 other things.

Red Dead Redemption 2 (and even Red Dead Redemption 1 to a lesser extent) is juggling gun combat, horse riding, looting and robbing, a crime system, numerous upgrade systems, customization, a story with obscene amounts of dialoge, a world many times larger than Call of Juarez, and god knows how many background systems are being run.

Sure, Red Dead (and GTA) might not do any one specific thing better than a game that focuses solely on it, but it's the overall game that a lot of people enjoy. Red Dead Redemption 2 is a package, that fills its open world with gorgeous detail and quite a lot to see and do. Events happen randomly in RDR2, and you can pick up a small side objective during your commutes between towns. It gives the open world a reason to exist.

Rage 2, a game you're asking to compare open worlds on, has next to nothing to compare with right now. All we saw was some shooty gameplay. My guess, the world is going to be large and rather vapid, like a Far Cry game, which I love Far Cry, but I can admit that traversing the open worlds in Far Cry games is more of a eventless slog than Red Dead 2 or GTA.

And yeah. Rockstar and the GTA name help sell the games. Because they've built a reputation. That's how literally all sequels work. Would you have given Max Payne 3 the time of day if it wasn't called Max Payne 3?
 

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ugh, Max Payne 3 was a truly awful game, and didn't deserve being a 'Max Payne' game at all.
 

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TT - If you?re only in it for the shooting mechanics, then quite possibly. For everything else it?s an asinine suggestion on multiple planes of reasoning.
 

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You're part right. Yes - some reviewers (and players) need to get off of Rockstar's dick. However, some people enjoy the game a lot. You need to accept that. It's boring to you; some like it.

Also, you're simply wrong when you say that their games wouldn't get higher than a "7" without the "Rockstar" or "Grand Theft Auto" name. Even if they wouldn't score as high, they would still definitely get above a "7." I'd bet money on it.

I have my fair share of gripes with Rockstar. They're too lazy and content to give us DLC for Grand Theft Auto V (for the singleplayer story), and some more choice in how to complete missions would be appreciated. However, I still can appreciate the quality of their games, and am enjoying Red Dead Redemption 2.

Also, they're assholes for not confirming a PC release.
 

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Well, it is a Bethesda game so I can assume it will not have a single memorable character or plot element. I am also guessing that my goals will all be Borderlands-style "go here and kill these dudes" again and again.

Shooting mechanics look decent though.