re-cast a character in a movie

[rosac]

We all know that one character from a film who was a bit... off. The actors face/mannerisms just didn;t seem to fit the role despite their best attempts. Name and shame them and then recast a better alternative.

For me- Lex Luthor portrayed by Jesse Eisenberg.

most of this is probably the writing, but I could not take Jesse's Lex seriously or see him as a threat. Just a spoilt brat.

For me they needed to recast and recast hard. Dwayne Johnson is one option, but Ralph Fiennes if going for an older Lex or if you have to go younger then Nicolas Hoult. They look like they can pull off the "man of the people by day, absolutely evil murdering bastard at night" act. The writing would have to change slightly to make Lex more calculating and scheming but still.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

As much as I enjoy him as an actor, Javier Bardem played Silva in Skyfall far too much like Heath Ledger's Joker for me to believe him. Just a wild haired cackling, romantic, epic Shakespearean villain with a sense of flair and drama. And that's not a Daniel Craig era bond villain to me.

Idris Elba would have been a much better choice. He has the class and smoldering charisma to pull of a perfect rogue 00-Agent. He's the type of guy you'd totally believe was the Bond of his day, whereas I never understood how Bardem was able to get through one operation without doing his best Mark Hammil impression.

Also to expand on the Topic - which, Mods, move it to Off Topic pls thx - I'm gonna cast someone in a movie that needs to happen.
Karl Urban [http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/almost-human-karl-urban1.jpg] as Dash Rendar [http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Dash-Rendar-N64.png] in a Shadows of the Empire movie. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

 

[Barbas]

Sure, or just Christopher Walken or Gary Oldman. The film doesn't matter; they have the power to elevate any old dross into something worth staring at for hours in fascination.

 

[Fox12]

Gandalf with a sassy black woman.

Kaworu from NGE with Kamina.

The lady from Halloween with Ash Williams.

Orson Welles with Tommy Wiseau

 

[PoK25]

Domhnall Gleeson as General Hux in Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Imo the guy is too young for that "mad general" role

 

[Sonmi]

The bland George Peppard as Paul Varjak and Mickey Rooney as the ugly Chinese stereotype in Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Even the director (deeply) regrets choosing Mickey Rooney.

Nitpicking, but it was a Japanese stereotype, not a Chinese one. One that looked straight out of WW2 propaganda too.

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I'd cast either The Rock or Denzel Washington instead of Cuba Gooding Jr. as OJ in The People v. OJ Simpson, Cuba simply doesn't look imposing enough to play OJ if you ask me.

 

[Danbo Jambo]

Adam Driver as Kylo Ren. I mean, fair enough stick with him if the mask stays on, but seeing him remove it to go from fearsome Vader wannabee, to angsty, emo, pussy totally wrecked him as a villain for me.

I wasn't a fan of the film overall anyway, but it went so limp when Driver took the mask off.

As much as I enjoy him as an actor, Javier Bardem played Silva in Skyfall far too much like Heath Ledger's Joker for me to believe him. Just a wild haired cackling, romantic, epic Shakespearean villain with a sense of flair and drama. And that's not a Daniel Craig era bond villain to me.

Idris Elba would have been a much better choice. He has the class and smoldering charisma to pull of a perfect rogue 00-Agent. He's the type of guy you'd totally believe was the Bond of his day, whereas I never understood how Bardem was able to get through one operation without doing his best Mark Hammil impression.

Also to expand on the Topic - which, Mods, move it to Off Topic pls thx - I'm gonna cast someone in a movie that needs to happen.
Karl Urban [http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/almost-human-karl-urban1.jpg] as Dash Rendar [http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Dash-Rendar-N64.png] in a Shadows of the Empire movie. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Personally I absolutely loved Bardem's Silva. Thought he created one of the best Bond Villains in years.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

Adam Driver as Kylo Ren. I mean, fair enough stick with him if the mask stays on, but seeing him remove it to go from fearsome Vader wannabee, to angsty, emo, pussy totally wrecked him as a villain for me.

I wasn't a fan of the film overall anyway, but it went so limp when Driver took the mask off.

You take that back! Driver's performance as Ren is probably the highlight of TFA, as it really drives home how Kylo Ren desperately wants to be the new Darth Vader but has neither the experience, nor the patience to be Vader. What he has is youthful anger and a short fuse. In many ways, Kylo Ren (and Driver's performance as Ren) is what Anakin should have been like in Episode 2 and 3.

 

[hermes]

Adam Driver as Kylo Ren. I mean, fair enough stick with him if the mask stays on, but seeing him remove it to go from fearsome Vader wannabee, to angsty, emo, pussy totally wrecked him as a villain for me.

I wasn't a fan of the film overall anyway, but it went so limp when Driver took the mask off.

I thought that was entirely intentional: he is an angsty, emo, pussy teenager. If anything, I would remove the first part where he is shown to be stronger at the force than anyone bar Force Unleashed characters...

OT: I can't think of a better one than Eisenberg's Luthor. I know it is not his fault (made worst mostly because the writing), but nothing on him sold me as the evil mastermind.

 

[Sonmi]

Aw, crap. I know. I don't know why I remembered it as Chinese. That's embarrassing.

No worries, man. It's a mistake one can easily do during brainfarts.

 

[Chanticoblues]

Kristin Stewart and Robert Pattinson in the Twilight series.

They should have just cast talentless eye-candy like they did with Lautner. Giving Stewart and Pattinson nothing to do, in terrible roles for a long, boring series has convinced an entire generation that they have nothing to offer, when the opposite is true. It's tough to think of other actors in their age range that have been as adventurous as they have in recent years.

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

J Law as Mystique, in new X-men movies. I'm not sure which part of that role was a bigger problem, her ever-pouty face or awkwardly delivered lines(Mutant and proud!). Less than stellar make-up job didn't help either. I think she was the only part of the cast that i'd rather see replaced.

 

[Danbo Jambo]

I thought that was entirely intentional: he is an angsty, emo, pussy teenager. If anything, I would remove the first part where he is shown to be stronger at the force than anyone bar Force Unleashed characters...

OT: I can't think of a better one than Eisenberg's Luthor. I know it is not his fault (made worst mostly because the writing), but nothing on him sold me as the evil mastermind.

Yeah, it may well have worked better if he was just portrayed as a total ponce from the off trying to aspire to be a Vader, as opposed to being this great, modern badass then becoming said ponce.

You take that back! Driver's performance as Ren is probably the highlight of TFA, as it really drives home how Kylo Ren desperately wants to be the new Darth Vader but has neither the experience, nor the patience to be Vader. What he has is youthful anger and a short fuse. In many ways, Kylo Ren (and Driver's performance as Ren) is what Anakin should have been like in Episode 2 and 3.

He's just too soft though. The second the mask's off his whole persona screams "weak". I see the point, but end result is the film with a main villain who carries little or no threat.

For what it's worth, watching Ford hobble round all the time provided an equally weak hero too.

Overall the film was a big let down for me, and Ren's emo-esq villain played a big part in that.

 

[Qizx]

I thought that was entirely intentional: he is an angsty, emo, pussy teenager. If anything, I would remove the first part where he is shown to be stronger at the force than anyone bar Force Unleashed characters...

OT: I can't think of a better one than Eisenberg's Luthor. I know it is not his fault (made worst mostly because the writing), but nothing on him sold me as the evil mastermind.

Yeah, it may well have worked better if he was just portrayed as a total ponce from the off trying to aspire to be a Vader, as opposed to being this great, modern badass then becoming said ponce.

You take that back! Driver's performance as Ren is probably the highlight of TFA, as it really drives home how Kylo Ren desperately wants to be the new Darth Vader but has neither the experience, nor the patience to be Vader. What he has is youthful anger and a short fuse. In many ways, Kylo Ren (and Driver's performance as Ren) is what Anakin should have been like in Episode 2 and 3.

He's just too soft though. The second the mask's off his whole persona screams "weak". I see the point, but end result is the film with a main villain who carries little or no threat.

For what it's worth, watching Ford hobble round all the time provided an equally weak hero too.

Overall the film was a big let down for me, and Ren's emo-esq villain played a big part in that.

Didn't really like the film either buuuuuuuut.


A) Ren isn't the main villain, he's not supposed to be.
B) Ford is SUPPOSED to be an old has been, relic of the past, he's not supposed to be a bad-ass hero.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

He's just too soft though. The second the mask's off his whole persona screams "weak". I see the point, but end result is the film with a main villain who carries little or no threat.

Honestly, I think that's the point. The opening scene, the mask and all the Vader imitation in the first scenes with Ren are all meant to make us think that Ren is the new ultra badass, Vader reincarnated. The reveal that the guy behind the mask is a soft, emo teenager who's mostly going down the Dark Side because of poor impulse control thus challenges our idea of what The Dragon is and should be.

I can see why it put you off, but it had the opposite effect on me. Ren is one of the reasons I like TFA.

 

[Danbo Jambo]

Didn't really like the film either buuuuuuuut.

A) Ren isn't the main villain, he's not supposed to be.
B) Ford is SUPPOSED to be an old has been, relic of the past, he's not supposed to be a bad-ass hero.

Good points, but that also highlights where they've gone wrong for me mate.

As a one-off film, for that type of flick, 99% of the time it works better with a main villain and Ren's portayed as that. Granted you make a great point - in the context of the trilogy he may turn out to be something completely different and that may explain why, but that doesn't stop it impacting on the fact that this movie has no real villain to be bothered about. Instead it just has a limp excuse for one.

And again fair point with Ford, that just irks because Han Solo was the ultimate badass to me growing up. It totally kills him off in the wrong way. I'd have bee happy if they'd have either kept him badass by doing what he did in Empire - stay behind a cockpit and fly like a cocky legend, or even turn him into a proper dad who's calmed down and settled down. But hobbling round all the time? The stickler is the fact that Han was always so focussed on self-presevation, but ultimately cared for Luke & Leia so much that he got caught up in this whole mess; yet in this film he's neither the sense to recognize his age, nor loyalty to be anywhere near Luke & Leia from the outset.

Bleeerrggg, the whole things a mess and another nail in the coffin of my childhood lol. I'm glad others enjoyed it though.

Honestly, I think that's the point. The opening scene, the mask and all the Vader imitation in the first scenes with Ren are all meant to make us think that Ren is the new ultra badass, Vader reincarnated. The reveal that the guy behind the mask is a soft, emo teenager who's mostly going down the Dark Side because of poor impulse control thus challenges our idea of what The Dragon is and should be.

I can see why it put you off, but it had the opposite effect on me. Ren is one of the reasons I like TFA.

Yeah, maybe it's me mate. I've pointed out a few bits related to it above, but maybe it's a sign of my age & an 80's driven, testosterone fuelled generation.

Life's shit when you get old lol.

 

[American Fox]

I'd rather have had Ed Harris as Magneto in the original Xmen trilogy.

And Denzel Washington would make such a fucking great Lex Luthor. Watch Training Day or American Gangster.